I should add, the paperclip computer was a mechanical computer, not an
analog computer in the 50-60's sense of the term.
b

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 2:05 AM Bill Degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve
> You ask a lot of good questions.
> The story is pretty well documented.  There was a company that made a
> commercial version of the computer described in the book
>
> https://blog.adafruit.com/2013/05/08/how-to-build-a-working-digital-computer-out-of-paperclips/
> There is a nice paperclip computer at the System Source museum in Hunt
> Valley, MD.
> I am sure there are people who actually built homebrew versions by
> following the book but I have never seen one.
>
> Analog computers are not like quantum computers enough for a valid
> comparison.  Different era, different uses.  Quantum computers are still
> digital computers and they're really nothing like analog computers of the
> 50's-late 60's.
>
> Analog computers were wired to complete a circuit that performs a
> mathematical function circuit.  The inputs and outputs are voltages or
> other electronically-measurable forces such as vibration.  When an analog
> computer program runs the output is sent to a voltmeter, oscilloscope,
> plotter or counter, or custom device.  A person would take the plot (waves,
> plotted points, etc.) and measure the slope or wave frequency manually by
> performing additional calculations with a slide rule or feeding the data
> into a digital computer for analysis.  Think smart programmable thermostat.
>
> Analog computers are more like open-use peripherals that can be programmed
> to do one thing at a time over and over.   Analog computers often
> had amplifier tubes which were used to generate input voltage pulses to be
> fed into the program circuitry.  I am just touching the surface, but hope
> that explains what they did.  They're no longer used for general computing
> because now we have USB devices that do analog to digital conversion
>
> 50's-60s' analog computer programming is done by patch panel.
>
> BIll
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:58 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Last month, I got to speak at VCF SW on aspects about the history of
>> personal computers.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF6Ofrr6_0
>> (I botched a couple things, a link to corrections is in the Description)
>>
>> I brought up the 1968 book "How to build a working digital
>> computer"(Alcosser).  I was wondering about opinions here on that book -
>> was it at all influential at the time?     Or is anyone aware of actually
>> building the system it describes?
>>
>> And - any thoughts on "digital computer" vs analog?  I'm aware of early
>> Heathkit analog computers.  Is it fair to say quantum computing is sort of
>> a return back to analog computing?
>>
>> I recently heard someone make a comment that we're near the end of the
>> "3.3V era" (maybe this was in the recent X16 talk, where some of the
>> challenges of the recent retro-remakes is exploring back to the 5V era and
>> how it's getting more difficult to find modern-make components that
>> support
>> that).
>>
>> Has no one explored a "tri-state" system? (discrete regions across 5V?)
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>> (v*  voidstar tech, not to be confused with voidstar labs)
>>
>

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