Well said. On Sun, 26 May 2024, 6:59 pm Liam Proven via cctalk, <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 07:50, ben via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > > I think the most important thing for a Personal Computer, > > is the average Joe, can afford and use it. > > Yes, agreed. > > > The second thing is > > to have ample memory and IO to run useful programs. > > Now, you see, I'd agree with that but then you immediately go and blow > it out of the water with this: > > > The basic Apple > > I,II does not count as many others as it had BASIC in ROM and tape IO. > > Hang on. So what? > > My first computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum. 48kB RAM, tape cassette > storage, floating-point BASIC with graphics commands in ROM. It was an > ample amount of RAM, it could run useful programs, and I both bought > hundreds of them and wrote my own. > > What kind of subjective elitist BS is this?! > > My Spectrum outspecced many early CP/M machines and they sold in the > hundreds of thousands to millions (worldwide, amalgamating all brands) > and spawned a multi-TRILLION-dollar industry, but in the opinion of > the mighty Mr I-don't-need-a-capital-letter-or-a-surname ben, they > don't count? > > Get in the sea. > > Utter tosh. You dismiss an entire decade's worth of hardware that > created careers, shaped the economies of nations, and arguably caused > the collapse of communism in Europe because you don't approve? > > No. Not for a second, not to be even entertained for amusement for an > instant, no. > > > > The third thing is a real OS. Nobody has one, as a personal computer. > > Tell me you never used DOS in anger, never saw CCP/M and CDOS and QNX > and DESQview, or Xenix, or really knew the PC platform at all, without > telling me. Utter bilgewater. Apparently you never even saw Borland > Sidekick. > > Ill-informed nonsense. > > > > CP/M and MSDOS does not handle IRQ's. > > Wrong. > > > Unix for the PDP-11 is real > > operating system but not personal as it requires a admin,and a swapping > > media. > > Irrelevant. > > > -- > Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com > Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven > IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 > Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 >