On Wed, Mar 27, 2024, 15:20 Liam Proven via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 at 14:50, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds of something that happened at a previous job, where I was part
> > of the small Unix team. We had bought an expensive pile of HP-UX related
> > kit from HP and apparently also some HP consultant time for training
> > on said kit. First day of training, HP consultant shows up in usual
> > full on business attire. Starts talking about stuff (e.g. SAN management
> > and and clustering related things) in a very ... "HP business" kind of
> > lingo, which rubbed us rather the wrong way. So I interrupt him, pointing
> > out: a) we already understand Unix TYVM and are mostly interested in the
> > HP-UX specific details and b) drop the business lingo and start talking
> > plain text, we're Unix admins, not MBAs. With a heavy unsaid implication
> > of "You are wearing a suit while explaining tech, that makes it hard to
> > take you seriously".
> >
> > So, step 1) said HP consultant _did_ drop the "HP business" lingo and
> > started talking plain Unix. And step 2) beginning the next day, he always
> > showed up at our site in shirt and jeans and was taken seriously now ;-)
> >
> > That was ... sometime in the early 2000.
>
> Very nice story. :-)
>
> In about 1989 my company sent me to London for a 3 day training course
> on 3Com 3+Open, 3Com's fancy new NOS based on OS/2 1.0.
>
> The airline lost my luggage. I turned up on day 1 in a not-too-fresh
> T-shirt and jeans. Everyone else was in a suit. I explained: no
> suitcase.
>
> Day 2, no suitcase. T shirt was now "fragrant". Some other students on
> the course had adopted casual wear.
>
> Day 3: my luggage arrives! I turn up in a fresh clean suit. Everyone
> else, tutor included, is in jeans and tees. :-D
>
> My company did _not_ adopt 3+Open or OS/2. On the basis of my
> experience we moved to Novell instead. At the time, a good choice, I
> still think today.
>

If your company's primary aim was to have a reliable file server with
fine-grained permissions, I'd say you made a fair choice.

At a SIGUCCS conference once in my early career I showed up in ripped blue
jeans and a T-shirt for my paper presentation. My employer was aghast but
after the talk I was recruited by another university ;-)

-Henry

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