> On Aug 25, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 9:27 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> It's obvious that the Apple 1 has the value it does not so much for its
>>> technology but for what it represents, and that's all that matters.
>> 
>> This reminds me of the observation that economics is a branch of
>> psychology: the value of stuff is subjective and personal.  (It has to be,
>> because in a trade each person exchanges an item for a different item
>> valued more highly *by that person*.)  So arguing about it doesn't get you
>> very far.
>> 
>>        paul
>> 
>> 
> Paul,
> Just to add my thoughts, not to argue....to me economics is based on supply
> and demand.  It's not as a science "subjective".  Economists can only in
> hindsight quantify the impact of subjective factors on supply and demand
> after they actually have occurred.  From that, one tries to predict the
> future taking past subjective impact to determine future economic
> outcomes, momemtum, etc.

Yes, but I wasn't talking about that aspect, but about the concept of "value".  
Communist pseudo-economics notwithstanding, value is in the eye of the 
beholder.  As I said, it must be: if I sell you my computer for $100, and you 
buy it for that, it means I value $100 more than the computer, and you value 
the computer more than $100.

        paul

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