Perhaps this discussion would be a good candidate for private email?
> On May 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > On 5/14/19 12:16 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > No, not really. The OP was trying to get wifi working on Win98. That's > > not the same thing. > > The letter of what the OP wanted was WiFi. I took the spirit of what > the OP wanted was network. > > You jumped to a conclusion. > > No I did not. > > I responded to comment where someone else said "you may want to consider > … using a cheap wifi-equipped micro as a network bridge". > > I stated "IMHO the OPZ would be functioning as what I think are commonly > called 'gaming adapters'. It functions as the wireless client to > connect the wired Ethernet client." The key points being: > - "IMHO" meaning in my humble opinion - "functioning as" meaning doing the > same / similar thing as - "what I /think/" as in what I believe but could be > wrong about - "commonly called" as in not always - "it functions as a > wireless client to connect the wired Ethernet > client." as in it's a way to connect a wired only device to a wireless > network. > > Then, you declared, rudely, the OP that they should buy something, > > How does "OPZ would be functioning as" translate to the OP should buy > something? > > by repeatedly, derisively, using a name that might be meaningful to > > millennial gamers, > > Many of the people in my community are decidedly outside of the > millennial gamers group and know what a gaming adapter is. > > I have no idea what age range people on this mailing list are—I honestly > don't care—but I strongly suspect that more people now know what a > gaming adapter is than did so before the start of this thread. > > but is _not_ to a bunch of old-timer high-level techies. > > Please don't conflate age with level of techies. > > I've worked with all four combinations of the binary young / old vs > techie / non-techie. > > Also, your idea meant going out and spending money on something new, > > No, it did not. > > when this is a community of people who you could reasonably expect to > > favour the approach of doing something difficult but functional with > > existing tech that they already own. > > That's one of the reasons that I enjoy this community. I re-use things > for different purposes all the time. I enjoy seeing how others solve > their problems. > > You told someone who is trying to do something on a 20-25 year old OS > > in order that they can connect to a 40 year old OS, that they should be > > buying a peripheral for a games console. > > No I did not. > > [1] You did not "suggest". You hectored, rudely. > > I disagree. > > I was not intend to be rude. I apologize to anyone that thought I was rude. > > [2] You did not _explain_ that. You just repeated some buzzword phrase > > nobody else here knows. > > I disagree. > > My original comment stated "It functions as the wireless client to > connect the wired Ethernet client." > > [3] You didn't explain that, either. > > See above. > > You mean if you addressed the OP and the rest of us as competent adults > > instead of poking fun? > > I continue to believe that I have addressed everyone in this thread as > competent adults. > > I did not intentionally try to poke fun at anyone. > > Believe me, when I say that I'm much more of an ass hole if I want to be > and try to poke at someone. > > Shock horror, yeah, that might have worked better. > > > > WE ARE NOT ALL AMERICAN. > > What does American have to do with this? > > Are you implying that American ~> U.S. English dialect is different than > other English dialects around the world and that those differences were > part of a breakdown in communications? > > Yeah you were. > > No, I was not. See the bullet points above. > > They are, until someone comes along and starts implying they are stupid, > > which is what you did. > > How did I imply that anyone is stupid? > > I apologize if I did so. That was certainly not my intent. > > Good. Have you worked out _why_ people were upset with you? > > No. > > Have you worked out what you did and how not to do it again? > > No. > > The only thing that I wish I had done differently was not used the > phrase "gaming adapter". I see no problems with anything else that I've > done. > > Have you decided to change? > > Not yet. > > I'm still open to feedback & critique. > > Look, *I* am someone who has, justly, been told off for being rude and > > dismissive here. I very much fear that I have caused people to quit the > > list, and I bitterly regret that. > > I think some of your comments have been curt. But I don't consider > "curt" to be "rude". > > But I have tried hard to *learn* from that, and I do not want to do > > it again. > > Good for you. > > Whereas you seem to feel that you were in the right all along and we've > > overreacted. > > I'm not saying I am in the right. I am saying that I don't think I'm in > the wrong. > > To me, there is a relatively neutral state in the middle, which is where > I think I am. > > I think you should reconsider and try to use this as a learning > > experience. > > I try to learn from things that I experience daily. I think most people > do too. > > There is a reason that I'm trying to defuse what I am currently chalking > up to miscommunication based on a number of misunderstandings on > multiple people's part. I'm trying to turn this into a constructive > conversation to learn from and avoid this type of issue in the future. > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery "The names of global variables should start with // " -- https://isocpp.org
