On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 06:53:18PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > But only someone who thinks that Emacs or Vi are usable editors could > think this was an appealing virtualisation solution.
Oh my, I know you are not offensive and I think flame over editors is really stupid thing to do, but whenever I read I could do something better, yet without hint how to change for the better, it is an itch to scratch for me. So, with half of my tongue in a cheek, which editors should I choose from - sed, ed, cat, joe, dd? Requirement: __has_to__ work on a terminal without loss of functionality (even though 99% of my editing happens in X, and I can live with "some" loss), no Javascript inside (mostly, because I am not willing to learn this anytime soon). Right now, the best choice for me is emacs - lots of configurability, I can take Elisp to another emacs and hopefully it will work there, too. It requires bit of caution, I use one very old one (from very old Linux which I will not upgrade to another Linux) and newer one, handcompiled. So there is some conflict of available features, but most of the time, not a big problem. I tried packages (via elpa?) and it was not good (at one point, emacs no longer booted), so I guess I will have to devise something of my own to play with other people's code (or have deep look at elpa). One choice leads to another, so nowadays I am writing my own snippets in Elisp. Because if one wants this frog, then eating it is inevitable. Customization in Elisp is very cool thing (IMHO). There is a number of things that would irritate me (like hell) but can be mitigated after bending some code for an hour or a five. Stuff like black mouse pointer over black background (now it is hot pink, very hard to miss it). The idea here is that of "five hours of bending, five years of not having to bend it again". We will see how this bet plays out but even if I had to bend it every second month, it is still huge plus over cost of being irritated. However, my emacs config claims to have started in 1999, and I mostly have no idea when I had to edit most of the old code there (quite often it was just copy-pasted from blogs, with only minimal understanding what I was doing). Anyway, this bet is probably reasonable. Vi (vim/gvim) is nice too, and quick, but not so often used. Both work over wire. I might be editing this email with one of them. Of course I will gladly learn about other choices. Seriously. What others are using? > Did I mention my more or less complete and utter loathing for C21 computing? I guess a lot of people do, too. > Why do you think I'm playing with MS-DOS again after 20y? I can see your loathing is bigger than mine... ("Spaceballs") -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **