> On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-10-05 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:53 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk 
>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>>> Also, the early desktop PS/2 (model 50 and such) had the controller 
>>>> integrated on the drive and those were Maxtor as I recall.  The PS/2 
>>>> shipped in 1987 and we had the drives in labs at least 12-18 months prior 
>>>> (memory is dim on this right now).
>>> No. The IBM 8550 has the controller on a special card and the drive had a 
>>> PCB edge that inserted into the PCB connector on the side of the 
>>> controller. The 8550-021 used a 20MB IBM WD-325N disk drive (P/N 90X6806). 
>>> The controller is a ST-506 type MFM controller (with DMA, so it rocks with 
>>> a sustained data rate of above 500kB/s!). My father upgraded the system 
>>> with a standard Rhodime 50MB MFM drive. There was a purely passive adapter 
>>> that split the card edge connector into the normal 20+34 pin connectors 
>>> plus power. I still have that system and drive :-)
>>> 
>> OK, my recollection must be faulty since I thought that the “riser” was 
>> passive e.g. just some connectors for HDD and floppy, traces and plugged 
>> into the motherboard.
>> 
>> There were a number of different drives.  I don’t recall the 20MB drive.  I 
>> mostly saw 60MB and 120MB drives.
>> 
>> TTFN - Guy
>> 
> It would appear that the original 50 was shipped with a ST506 disk drive that 
> would seem to have been connected to microchannel adapter card.  The 50Z is 
> described as coming with an ESDI drive, and from the pictures I have seen the 
> drive plug into an adapter card that is in turn plugged into a reserved slot 
> on the system board  that may be a regular microchannel slot, but was 
> reserved because the drive plugged directly into a connector on the card.  
> This card does have logic and EPROMs on it so is more that a simple riser, 
> the drive however does not have standard ESDI connectors on it  and does 
> resemble the DBA drives.  The model 70 that is in a case very similar to 50 
> and 50Z has what is called Direct Bus Attach (DBA) drives with a riser from 
> the system board that provides connectors for the DBA disk and diskette 
> drives.  The model 70 tech ref manual shows the connector for the DBA drive 
> as being on the microchannel bus.  I do remember seeing 50s and 70s, but most 
> of the PS/2s I saw when doing machine room support where 60s and 80s.
> 

Yea, most of my work on PS/2’s were on 60s, 70s, 80s and various 95s (as well 
as the P70 luggable).  I don’t recall doing very much (if anything on the 50), 
so it may in fact have been different.

I was also on the team that did the processor card for the 70-486 and the 
“Spock” and “Tribble” SCSI microchannel cards.

TTFN - Guy

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