In my case the cap is epoxied to the board so I can’t rock it :(

 

From: drlegendre . [mailto:drlegen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 August 2017 07:24
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Cc: dwight <dkel...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: PSU Input Rectifier Question

 

snap-cap removal goes like this: heat up the joints and solder-suck them clean 
as possible. Then hold on to the cap body, and attempt to rock it back & forth 
has you re-heat one pin and then the other(s). Once all the pins are broke 
free, you can extract it. 

 

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org 
<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote:

Good idea to drain them first, I will do that. Having never encountered
snap-ins before I don't know, but from the way you describe removal I
suspect they are snap-in, as the leads are quite tightly against the sides
of the holes and won't move even if I have heated them up. I hope that
cutting the tops off will eventually expose the individual pins so they will
be more easily removed.



Regards



Rob



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They would have electrolyte in them. It is mildly corrosive as it is mostly
a borate solution. You can drill a couple holes in the tops of the case and
drain them.

Since you say you've unsoldered the bases, are they wire or snap in. If snap
in, you must get the lead clear of any solder touching the edge of the hole
before you can think of any prying.

Dwight



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>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Not really no. The base of the capacitors is actually touching the
> > board, so I can't get under it to cut anything anyway, which is why I
> > am thinking I would have to cut the tops off them. Even if I could cut
> > one of the leads, I can't solder a capacitor underneath as that is
> > where the board is mounted into the enclosure, there is only room for
> > the mounting standoffs on the underside.
>
>  If you need to replace the caps anyway, then I think just cutting through
the
> outer PET sleeve should do as chances are it's only the sleeve that's got
glued
> and not the leads or the closing cap.  Then you might be able to just pull
the
> inner aluminium can containing the capacitor itself from the sleeve and
with
> the component proper out of the way get rid of any remains from the PCB.
>

Thanks Maciej,

I would just like to make doubly sure, before cutting into the outer body of
the caps, am I likely to hit any gotchas? Just how wet are they inside, do I
need to take any precautions with the electrolyte?


>  NB the originals are just snap-in capacitors AFAIK, e.g. Chemi-Con KMH
series
> (I can't figure that out from your photos and luckily none of my H7878s
has
> failed so far, so I haven't made this a part list for this PSU for
myself), still
> manufactured, so modern replacements should do.  With the PCB hole
> diameter supposed to be 2mm by the manufacturer's spec I wouldn't be
> bothered with a small lead pitch variation, you can always bend the leads
> slightly as there's some space between the closing cap and the rim that
rests
> against the PCB.
>


I did wonder if there would be enough tolerance. I have never encountered
these snap-in ones before, I don't know what they are like. Sounds like I
can try some snap-ins, which widens the choice immeasurably.


>  Also I would't be bothered about the LED holder getting damaged; it's a
> standard piece, available online.  I can dig out the part numbers,
separate for
> individual pieces of the holder (you can match different kinds against
each
> other, depending on your needs), if that would help; I ordered a bunch a
while
> ago for my own use.
>

I found some LED holders/clips which do seem to fit the bill, although I am
not sure I see how you get the old LED out, unless you have to break the
thing.

Regards

Rob




 

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