Its possible, but you need a modem eliminator mostly to provide the
clocks for the sync data line, other than that is is similar to a null
modem.
I remember the control units being pretty much trouble free however the
3277 terminals,3284 and 3286 printers where a different story. What I
remember of the 3277 is they seemed to never have solid problems always
seemed to be intermittent. We would swap groups of cards between 3277s
in an attempt to isolate and leave notes in the terminals saying what
cards where swapped and why, and you would find notes from years before
buried in the dust from people who had done the same thing before. The
3284 and 86 printers could be a bit of a nightmare, like the rest of the
system they where all hardware and the printing was timed by toothed
where and emitters that detected the teeth playing with them usually led
to trouble. I remember times when the carrier would take off at full
speed and slam into the right frame reverse and slam into the left frame
while you scrambled to get to the power switch. The 3287 printer with
the adapter to attach to 3271/2 was a God send.
Paul.
On 2015-12-18 10:32 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
I have a 3271 Model 2 - the remote bisync one. It's in embarrassing
condition; I'll take pics once it's cleaned up! Only IBM product I
have with significant wood in it; the top panel of the unit is made of
formica-covered chipboard!
No docs.
I wonder if it might be possible to finagle it into working with my
3277 by a direct hookup to a serial port on a P/390, or a machine
running Hercules?
Mike
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:39 PM, William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have a 3272? I found one during the cleanup of the Black Hole.
I think I can get ALDs and docs for it.
--
Will
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Mike Ross <tmfdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
grrrr 3271 and 3272 controllers I should have said! They're much
dumber than 3174 - no program load device whatever; all done in
hardware. Just an on/off switch and a couple of status lights.
Mike
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Mike Ross <tmfdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh sounds like fun!
I'm working with 3277 which uses a different protocol; connects to
older mainframes (360/370) via 3171/3172 controllers - channel
attached or remote. Also connects to System/3 direct to the CPU
hardware as a console. I have a 3172 controller; physically rough and
needs restoration but *should* work if I can fake the remote
connection and modem - bisync etc. But just now I'm working with
Henk's 3277->RS232 converter - trying to get it hooked up to an
emulated System/3 - http://www.ibmsystem3.nl/emulators.html
I've played this game a lot - including telnetting into Linux from
3270 screens - see http://www.corestore.org/emuterm.htm
Please let me know when you manage to ship those 3174 diskettes to
Henk; I know he's keen to get them ASAP.
Mike
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Guy Sotomayor <g...@shiresoft.com> wrote:
I’ve been tinkering around with my IBM Mainframe terminals and I’m pretty close
to having everything the way that I want it.
I currently have an IBM 3174-61R Establishment controller connecting to my
“mainframes” via TCP/IP. This allows me to not only connect to my Multiprise
3000 S/390 but also some PCs running Hercules to allow me to run older versions
of the mainframe OS’s. I currently have 3 IBM 3179 terminals hooked up.
I’ve upgraded the 3174 to be able to boot from a hard disk (it was a supported
option). I actually purchased the upgrade from a reputable vendor but after
many attempts we could not actually get it to do anything useful. I learned
about DavidG’s MFM emulator and that’s now installed in the 3174 which happily
boots from it. I still have to figure out a permanent mount for it since the
standard 3174 HDD mounts don’t work for the MFM emulator board.
One of the last things that I wanted to figure out was how to support multiple
sessions. I had configured the 3174 to support multiple sessions on each
terminal but following the documentation, I could never figure out how to
actually switch between the sessions. Well today I managed to do that.
Success! I finally figured out the key sequence for switching sessions. It
doesn’t match the IBM documentation. It’s not clear to me if that’s because I
haven’t configured something properly on the 3174 or if there’s some other
reason behind it.
Since I also have the AEA feature that allows me to connect ASCII terminals to
the 3174, my next project will be to hook up a couple of the terminals that’re
deemed “compatible” (VT100, ADM5 are on the list) and see how that works. But
that also involves navigating the 3174 configuration process which is opaque to
say the least (there are configuration screens but you need a manual because
the fields only have numbers (e.g. 721) to identify them and no other
indication as to how they need to be filled in).
Oh, the other bizarre thing about the 3174 that’s been configured with TCP/IP
is that I can also connect to “unix” servers with the 3174’s (and the ASCII
terminals too). It’ll be interesting to see how that works on a CUT mode
terminal. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
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