On 07/15/2015 01:24 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
     > On 7/14/2015 7:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

     > On the system 360 CPUs, they did not use flip-flops like we are used
     > to, today. They used latches ... Since these were discrete transistor
     > implementations, a real flip-flop was too expensive, but a latch could
     > be implemented in about 6 transistors, I think.
     > The 11/45 used TTL ICs, so real FFs were available in that technology,
     > although they may have used latches as well.

This confused me a bit, until I realized that you were using "latch" for what
I think of as 'SR flip-flop', and "flip-flop" for 'D and JK flip-flops'.
Guess that shows how long ago I did hardware... :-)

To be a bit more detailed, on the 360's, were those latches 'simple' SR flops
(i.e. un-gated), or were they gated?


Well, one would have to dig into the ALDs to be sure. But, the FEMMs have some large drawings that are essentially RTL in graphical form, and a lot of description of how it all worked. My understanding is all those registers were essentially D latches. So, they got one data input from the ALU or a mux, and a latch pulse, and provided a Q output. Each of these latches took up at least 4 SLT packages, I'm not sure exactly how many for sure. So, the whole latch was composed of something like 4 NOR gates or the equivalent, plus one inverter.

(Sorry about being so vague, I read a bunch of IBM FEMMs about a year ago when I had some spare time.)

Jon

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