On 2015-Jun-17, at 7:31 AM, Dave G4UGM wrote: >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa >>> From: Dave G4UGM >> >>> I found it easier to think of it in DC terms. So the Cap charges >>> through R5 + R3 and R9 + R8. >>> As the Cap charges the voltage on the base of Q1 rises until it turns >>> on, which then turns on Q2. >>> At this point the cap is then charged (or discharged) in the reverse >>> direction via Q2, D5 and R4 until Q1 turns off..... >> >> I'm clearly never going to be any good at analog stuff! ;-) Even with what >> looks (on the surface) to be a wonderfully clear explanation of how the >> circuit works, I still can't really grok how it operates! >> >> I mean, I can tell from the polarity on the cap that the collector of Q2 >> must be >> at a higher voltage than the base of Q1, but I am utterly failing to >> understand >> how the cap discharges through Q2. And as the cap charges (i.e. >> the voltage across it increases), how does the voltage on the base of Q1 >> increase - surely it must be decreasing (since it's tied to the negative >> side of >> the cap, which is experiencing a voltage increase across itself)? > > I think the cap is mildly abused. I believe that it is reverse charged.
While I was at the bench working on another project I took a couple of minutes to breadboard the circuit (Q1-Q3), turns out it switches before the capacitor goes into reverse charge, so the cap does retain the proper polarisation throughout the charge/discharge operation cycle. Experimented with separating R8/R9 into isolated emitter-bias and collector-load resistors, can still be made to oscillate but becomes more touchy, so I do suspect the particular oscillator design was chosen for stability, also considering a common flip-flop astable could have been in fewer components. (Coincidentally, the other project was repairing one of those common flip-flop astables (master clock in a 1971 calculator) which was intermittent. Measurements ruled out the Rs as a problem, so narrowed it down to the two transistors and the two capacitors, at which point it became a question of shotgun replacing all 4 components versus trying to isolate it further. Tried individual hot / cold checking of the 4, the osc. rigorously stopped with heat applied to a 60pF ceramic cap and restarts after blowing it cool.)
