Hi,

You can save the rigid fit model w.r.t the density map in chimera, then
load them in phenix to start real space refinement.

Regards

Subhomoi

On Thu, 19 Dec, 2024, 6:24 pm tim smith, <stim52...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for your responses. I was confused after open file in coot
> and did some regid refinements. That file was saved, after this what I
> understood I can use this file for phenix real space refinements right or
> without doing in coot can do directly?. Can any suggest me my fit doesn't
> look like a 100% what should I could do for this. Thank you so much and
> happy holidays to all!!
>
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, 16:14 Krieger, James M, <
> 0000e8decb6aa234-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I guess you mean that you’ve done an initial global rigid body fit and
>> you still want to do some refinement to get better local fits?
>>
>> Refmac servalcat is a good option and uses two half maps in MRC format.
>> It comes as part of ccpem but does require ccp4 to be installed too
>>
>> Or alternatively, you could use phenix, which has a real space refinement
>> option for cryo-EM.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> James
>>
>> > On 18 Dec 2024, at 21:04, Paul Emsley <pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 18/12/2024 18:17, tim smith wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Can you please advise once we fit the map and open in coot. What is
>> next step to do in coot.
>> >
>> > I am somewhat confused. Once you have done the fitting then you're
>> done. Right? You can run your model through (another) refinement program
>> before you analyse and deposit - servalcat springs to mind.
>> >
>> >> I tried refmac but that required ccp4 file which doesn't have.
>> >
>> > Refmac is part of the CCP4 Suite. You need CCP4 to get Refmac.
>> >
>> > One can build Servalcat from source -
>> https://github.com/keitaroyam/servalcat - and that doesn't need CCP4 -
>> however I doubt that is easy for "newbies."
>> >
>> >> Please some one can help in elaborating and sharing any tutorial would
>> be helpful. I'm new bie and first time I am trying model building.
>> >
>> > There are some cryo-EM tutorial on my blog:
>> >
>> > https://pemsley.github.io/coot/blog/
>> >
>> > e..g this one:
>> >
>> >
>> https://pemsley.github.io/coot/blog/2022/08/27/Coot-Cryo-EM-Tutorial-Part-1.html
>> >
>> > There are some tutorials on YouTube (e.g. sbgrid) I should make more.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
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