Hi Harry On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 12:54 PM Harry Powell < 0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> I’m left wondering which aspects of the patent application are novel and > haven’t already been published elsewhere in the list of references (which > include a number of Tamir’s other papers). > If any of the claims are the same as or the result of changes to prior art that could be made by a person of ordinary skill in the relevant field of technology, then they are likely to be rejected by the patent examiner. Others will know - can you patent something that you have already published > in a paper? I try to steer clear of lawyers and the law... > It depends on the "priority date" of the filing (usually but not always the date of first filing, but it may be the priority date of an earlier related patent). Any publication, including those of the applicant, that pre-date the priority date are considered to be prior art and fair game for the patent examiner when considering the validity of the claims. Cheers -- Ian > > Harry > > > On 28 Jul 2023, at 12:36, John R Helliwell <jrhelliw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Dear Graeme, > > Yes indeed, interesting. > > There are clearly aspects of microED of proteins which might be > documented as non-obvious otherwise it wouldn’t have been a bit stuck ie > without the widespread community take up until recent years. > > In terms of a concept patent, which this might be interpreted as, an > interesting one in my experience was the Kodak Storage Phosphor patent > which held up Fuji for a considerable time in its commercialisation of its > image plates even though Fuji had several specific know how patents. > > In terms of cost of patenting, especially worldwide, this is a major > stumbling block at least at Univ Manchester who have a keen eye for whether > it might be deemed worth it. > > Thanks for sharing. > > Greetings, > > John > > > > Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc > > > > > > > > > >> On 28 Jul 2023, at 08:46, Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) < > 00006a19cead4548-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >> Interesting > >> > >> https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20230228695.pdf > >> > >> Patent for use of electron diffraction to assess ligand binding > >> > >> Stumbled across this because the patent application cites my work - > felt that this would be of interest to the community > >> > >> … discuss? > >> > >> Graeme > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and > or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. > If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the > addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not > use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to > the e-mail. > >> Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual > and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. > >> Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any > attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any > damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be > transmitted in or with the message. > >> Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in > England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell > Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > >> > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a > mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are > available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
