I get the impression that these days you can patent just about anything, and 
instead of challenging your claims the patent examiners leave it to be settled 
later. A few years (probably one or two decades!) ago someone managed to patent 
the idea of a difference Fourier to detect binding, ignoring the many decades 
of prior art. As far as I am aware no-one ever tried to enforce that patent.

Randy

> On 28 Jul 2023, at 09:17, Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) 
> <00006a19cead4548-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Discussion topics:
>
> - does this have any hope of being enforced since - as you point out - it is 
> a pretty obvious next step from X-rays
> - does anyone else who is _already doing this_ care
> - should we (individuals, not community) be patenting the obvious / ideas / 
> “inventions” just in case?
>
> (well aware that the authors of said patent will wake up to this in a few 
> hours)
>
> Personally, I am not comfortable with this, but maybe I am a dinosaur?
>
> Graeme
>
>> On 28 Jul 2023, at 09:13, Tim Gruene <tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Graeme,
>>
>> do you want to discuss whether obvious steps can be patented?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 07:45:38 +0000 "Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)"
>> <00006a19cead4548-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting
>>>
>>> https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20230228695.pdf
>>>
>>> Patent for use of electron diffraction to assess ligand binding
>>>
>>> Stumbled across this because the patent application cites my work -
>>> felt that this would be of interest to the community
>>>
>>> … discuss?
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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