Hello Jon,

Indeed - in the case of NMR, as far as I understand, we can't talk about
resolution (that is why I used quotes). What I need here is a structure (or
ensemble of structures) to which I could hope to dock ligands with some
level of accuracy - something that SAXS could not provide.



On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jon Cooper <jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello, my numpty-level understanding is that being intrinsically disorder
> and giving high-resolution structural data are mutually exclusive. I will
> re-read your e-mails. Hope this helps. Cheers, Jon.C.
>
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> On 15 Aug 2021, 09:16, Sorin Draga < sor.dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Ethan,
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. I should have mentioned in my initial post
> that my intention is to first conduct a high throughput virtual screening
> on these proteins, thus I would need high "resolution" of the structures
> which SAXS could not provide, as far as I understand.
> SAXS/SAS might become useful at a later stage, when I have a small number
> of potential inhibitors identified.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sorin
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 5:55 PM Ethan A Merritt <merr...@uw.edu> wrote:
>
>> It is possible that you could address some of your questions
>> more quickly and much more cheaply by small-angle scattering,
>> either light (SAS) or X-ray (SAXS).
>>
>> I would suggest looking into those avenues first.
>>
>> If you have well behaved (i.e. non-aggregating) purified proein
>> and access to synchrotron beam time (easily requested),
>> a series of SAXS experiments could probably be conducted in one day.
>> I don't want to oversell SAXS, I'm not really an enthusiast.
>> But this case, categorizing the interaction of two poorly ordered proteins
>> in solution and in particular the facilitation or disruption of this
>> interaction by small molecules, should be well within its scope.
>>
>>         best
>>
>>                 Ethan
>>
>> On Saturday, 14 August 2021 14:12:40 PDT Sorin Draga wrote:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > I do realize that this is not a NMR focused group, but I do hope that
>> there
>> > are a few spectroscopists lurking around that could possibly answer a
>> few
>> > questions (I am more of a modeler/computationalist):
>> >
>> > The problem: I have two intrinsically disordered proteins that are
>> known to
>> > interact (let's call them 1 and 2). I would like to get structural
>> > information (a conformational ensemble) for 1 and for the "complex"
>> (1+2).
>> > Further down the line (depending on whether this is possible) I would
>> also
>> > like to evaluate potential small molecule inhibitors for the said
>> complex.
>> > Both 1 and 2 are <200 aminoacids long.
>> >
>> > The questions:
>> >
>> > 1. Could the cost of determining the "structure" for 1 and 1+2 be
>> > estimated? To be more precise, I am looking for a ball-park figure on
>> how
>> > much a NMR measurement would cost in this case.
>> > 2. Could anyone recommend a good group/CRO that could provide such a
>> > service and not have an astronomical cost?
>> > 3. Any other suggestions/thoughts that you think might be worth
>> mentioning
>> > (minimum quantity of protein necessary, purity, type of NMR etc)
>> >
>> > Many thanks for your help and time!
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > Sorin
>> >
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