You were right: I did go to medical school, but you were wrong that I was not instructed about informed consent; I was, and came out thinking it is not as simple as you seem to portray it. We discussed the topic quite a bit, and there were all sorts of borderline cases, weird twists, and so on. That was one thing I loved about medical school: real clinical/epidemiological life is much more vivid, complex, and nuanced than the rules we try to impose. So...
Under some conditions the rules have to change, like during wars or pandemics. I am very sympathetic to the idea of informed consent and not forcing people to do things, especially medically, but don't you agree that my personal freedom from things like vaccination sometimes begins to impose on others' freedoms from pandemics? Or mandatory mask-wearing...? And by the way, we are still at the sci-fi stage here, so let's not get too exercised! JPK On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:29 PM David Schuller <[email protected]> wrote: > It was my understanding that you attended medical school. I am surprised > that there was no instruction pertaining to the ethics of obtaining consent > for human subject trials. > > > > On 2/17/21 2:09 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: > > But does it end better than the current best-seller "Smoldering Pandemic > Paralyzes Human Race, Fuels Contention, Kills Millions, Drives the Rest > Mad?" > > JPK > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:40 PM David Schuller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I read that book. It does not end well. >> >> >> On 2/17/21 12:33 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: >> >> It would seem to me that it should be possible to generate versions of >> the Covid virus that would: >> >> A. be extremely contagious and yet >> B. be clinically benign, and >> C. confer immunity to the original covid virus. >> >> If, then, this virus could be released, with appropriate "kill switch" >> safeguards built in, would this not solve the world's pandemic problems? Is >> there any reason, practically, why this approach would not be feasible? >> >> Maybe we don't really know enough to manipulate A, B, C yet? >> >> Or maybe it's too scary for primetime...nightmare bio-warfare apocalypse? >> >> Has this sort of thing been done, or does it have a name? >> >> Jacob >> -- >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Jacob Pearson Keller >> >> Assistant Professor >> >> Department of Pharmacology and Molecular Therapeutics >> >> Uniformed Services University >> >> 4301 Jones Bridge Road >> >> Bethesda MD 20814 >> >> [email protected]; [email protected] >> >> Cell: (301)592-7004 >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> >> -- >> ======================================================================= >> All Things Serve the Beam >> ======================================================================= >> David J. Schuller >> modern man in a post-modern world >> MacCHESS, Cornell University >> [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> > > > -- > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Jacob Pearson Keller > > Assistant Professor > > Department of Pharmacology and Molecular Therapeutics > > Uniformed Services University > > 4301 Jones Bridge Road > > Bethesda MD 20814 > > [email protected]; [email protected] > > Cell: (301)592-7004 > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -- > ======================================================================= > All Things Serve the Beam > ======================================================================= > David J. Schuller > modern man in a post-modern world > MacCHESS, Cornell University > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jacob Pearson Keller Assistant Professor Department of Pharmacology and Molecular Therapeutics Uniformed Services University 4301 Jones Bridge Road Bethesda MD 20814 [email protected]; [email protected] Cell: (301)592-7004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
