Hi John and Eleanor,

The absence of a LINKR equivalent in the mmCIF dictionary is a shame. The 
mapping to a full description of the bond (bond order, residue modifications, 
geometric targets) rather than just a statement that two atoms are connected 
(with a limited set of types), is something that could really improve the PDB 
as a databank. This would require and extension of the CCD to also contain 
descriptions of linkages like the CCP4 dictionary has (in a limited way), but 
that makes the data more completely annotated.

Cheers,
Robbie



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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] LINK vs LINKR


Dear Eleanor

mmCIF does not have a equivalent of LINKR records.

If you define links during refinement then these are output as _struct_conn in 
mmCIF files. The _struct_conn records are used during deposition to determine 
if two atoms are linked, allowing using to validate chirality (such as ASN to a 
NAG) and ignore these atoms in clashes. Any _struct_conn records which are 
invalid due to one of the atoms missing will not affect the analysis at 
deposition, they will just be ignored.

Please try outputing an mmCIF file out of refmac and report any incorrect or 
missing _struct_conn records to the refmac developers.

John

On 10/12/2017 20:04, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
Dear John - sorry for my ignorance but does mmCIF provide a proper LINKR 
replacement?

Surely there is just as likely to be redundant LINK records as LINKR? It is 
easy enough to get rid of a residue and forgetting to leave useless CISPEP 
SSBOND LNK etc lines in the header...

 Eleanor

On 10 December 2017 at 19:59, John Berrisford 
<j...@ebi.ac.uk<mailto:j...@ebi.ac.uk>> wrote:

Dear Bernhard

When we convert from PDB to mmCIF we do indeed ignore LINKR records as these 
are also present between unmodelled residues in the PDB file (or were when we 
tested).

However, if you output an mmCIF file directly from refmac then the link records 
are correctly written out into _struct_conn records (mmCIF equivalent of LINK 
records) which are correctly handled by the deposition system.

To do this simply add the keyword "pdbout format mmcif" to your refmac commands 
and it will output an mmCIF file ready for deposition.

I hope this helps

John

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On 09/12/2017 20:34, Bernhard Rupp wrote:
Dear Developers,

the TER issue in REFMAC seems to be fixed, but is really necessary that REFMAC 
places LINKR
records instead of LINK records in the PDB header?

The PDB does not recognize those, and although it’s only a minor nuisance to 
fix them in an editor,
one tends to forget this between revisions…or the PDB could simply ignore the 
‘R’….

Best, BR

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