Will try to check mmCIF, but how does one describe angles, chirality etvc
for LINKs if there isnt a named dictionary definition to use..
Eleanor


On 10 December 2017 at 20:28, John Berrisford <j...@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Eleanor
>
> mmCIF does not have a equivalent of LINKR records.
>
> If you define links during refinement then these are output as
> _struct_conn in mmCIF files. The _struct_conn records are used during
> deposition to determine if two atoms are linked, allowing using to validate
> chirality (such as ASN to a NAG) and ignore these atoms in clashes. Any
> _struct_conn records which are invalid due to one of the atoms missing will
> not affect the analysis at deposition, they will just be ignored.
>
> Please try outputing an mmCIF file out of refmac and report any incorrect
> or missing _struct_conn records to the refmac developers.
>
> John
>
> On 10/12/2017 20:04, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
>
> Dear John - sorry for my ignorance but does mmCIF provide a proper LINKR
> replacement?
>
> Surely there is just as likely to be redundant LINK records as LINKR? It
> is easy enough to get rid of a residue and forgetting to leave useless
> CISPEP SSBOND LNK etc lines in the header...
>
>  Eleanor
>
> On 10 December 2017 at 19:59, John Berrisford <j...@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Bernhard
>>
>> When we convert from PDB to mmCIF we do indeed ignore LINKR records as
>> these are also present between unmodelled residues in the PDB file (or were
>> when we tested).
>>
>> However, if you output an mmCIF file directly from refmac then the link
>> records are correctly written out into _struct_conn records (mmCIF
>> equivalent of LINK records) which are correctly handled by the deposition
>> system.
>>
>> To do this simply add the keyword "pdbout format mmcif" to your refmac
>> commands and it will output an mmCIF file ready for deposition.
>>
>> I hope this helps
>>
>> John
>>
>> PDBe
>>
>> On 09/12/2017 20:34, Bernhard Rupp wrote:
>>
>> Dear Developers,
>>
>>
>>
>> the TER issue in REFMAC seems to be fixed, but is really necessary that
>> REFMAC places LINKR
>>
>> records instead of LINK records in the PDB header?
>>
>>
>>
>> The PDB does not recognize those, and although it’s only a minor nuisance
>> to fix them in an editor,
>>
>> one tends to forget this between revisions…or the PDB could simply ignore
>> the ‘R’….
>>
>>
>>
>> Best, BR
>>
>>
>>
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