Dear all, thank you for your comments!
Also, Dr Gildea, it is not your fault but mine. I used bookmarked page and
saved this link some time ago. Google gives correct link to DIALS github
page.

2016-12-10 21:01 GMT+03:00 Richard Gildea <richard.gil...@diamond.ac.uk>:

> The documentation you linked to is out of date (our fault), the new DIALS
> homepage is:
>
> http://dials.github.io
>
> The precise behaviour of the dials.index parameter filter_ice is described
> more explicitly in the current documentation:
>
> http://dials.github.io/documentation/programs/dials_index.html
>
> max_cell_estimation
>     .expert_level = 1
>   {
>     filter_ice = True
>       .help = "Filter out reflections at typical ice ring resolutions
> before"
>               "max_cell estimation."
>       .type = bool
>   }
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> Dr Richard Gildea
> Data Analysis Scientist
> Tel: +441235 77 8078
>
> Diamond Light Source Ltd.
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>
> ________________________________________
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Richard
> Gildea [richard.gil...@diamond.ac.uk]
> Sent: 10 December 2016 17:56
> To: ccp4bb
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] why pointless does not give statistics (CC1/2; N_CC;
> CCfit...) in certain resolution bin
>
> Dear Eugene,
>
> This is only in dials.index, and even then it is only in the initial
> maximum cell estimation that reflections from ice rings are excluded by
> default. They are included in the basis vector determination and further
> refinement. If you wish to exclude ice ring reflections from all steps of
> indexing you need to filter ice rings in dials.find_spots.
>
> For dials.integrate see:
>
> http://dials.github.io/documentation/programs/dials_integrate.html
>
> The parameter filter.ice_rings=false by default.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> Dr Richard Gildea
> Data Analysis Scientist
> Tel: +441235 77 8078
>
> Diamond Light Source Ltd.
> Diamond House
> Harwell Science & Innovation Campus
> Didcot
> Oxfordshire
> OX11 0DE
> ________________________________
> From: Eugene Osipov [e.m.osi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 10 December 2016 17:21
> To: Gildea, Richard (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
> Cc: ccp4bb
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] why pointless does not give statistics (CC1/2; N_CC;
> CCfit...) in certain resolution bin
>
> Dear RIchard,
> It is probably my problems with understanding.
> From this page:
> http://dials.sourceforge.net/documentation/programs/dials_index.html
>
> I understood that :
>
> filter_ice = True
>
> is default parameter and by default DIALS will not consider spots at
> typical ice resolutions. Or it is only true before refinement procedure?
>
>
>
> 2016-12-10 18:05 GMT+03:00 <richard.gil...@diamond.ac.uk<mailto:
> richard.gil...@diamond.ac.uk>>:
> "E.g. DIALS by default do not process reflections near ice rings,"
>
> I'm not sure where you got this information from, but this is not correct
> - by default DIALS will process all reflections.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> Dr Richard Gildea
> Data Analysis Scientist
> Tel: +441235 77 8078
>
> Diamond Light Source Ltd.
> Diamond House
> Harwell Science & Innovation Campus
> Didcot
> Oxfordshire
> OX11 0DE
> ________________________________
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:
> CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] on behalf of Eugene Osipov [e.m.osi...@gmail.com
> <mailto:e.m.osi...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: 10 December 2016 13:39
> To: ccp4bb
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] why pointless does not give statistics (CC1/2; N_CC;
> CCfit...) in certain resolution bin
>
> E.g. DIALS by default do not process reflections near ice rings,
>
> 2016-12-09 21:05 GMT+03:00 Phil Evans <p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:
> p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk><mailto:p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:p
> r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>>>:
> For some reason there is no data in that resolution bin
>
> Phil
>
> > On 9 Dec 2016, at 17:30, Xiao Lei <xiaolei...@gmail.com<mailto:x
> iaolei...@gmail.com><mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com<mailto:xiao
> lei...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have an x ray diffraction dataset of protein and dna complex processed
> with pointless and I am trying to get the resolution cut for this data, the
> result is below, I do not know why in the N=23 (Dmid=3.68) bin, there is no
> statistic of CC(1/2), N_cc, CCfit, etc?  The program just put a "-" sign
> into it.  I guess if this means something bad probably I have to cut the
> resolution to 3.7A.
> >
> > $TABLE: Mn(I/sigI) and CC(1/2) [in P1] vs. resolution:
> > $GRAPHS:Resolution estimate 3.89A:0.000213587|0.0981986x0|1:2,4,6,7,9:
> >  $$
> >   N  1/d^2    Dmid CC(1/2)   N_CC   CCfit  Mn(I/sigI)      N
> (I/sigI)/10   $$ $$
> >   1  0.0018  23.27   0.939     51   0.990       92.43    142       9.243
> >   2  0.0051  13.99   0.993    210   0.987       72.33    607       7.233
> >   3  0.0084  10.92   0.984    323   0.984       61.77    937       6.177
> >   4  0.0116   9.27   0.974    344   0.981       54.77   1030       5.477
> >   5  0.0149   8.19   0.969    486   0.976       29.98   1412       2.998
> >   6  0.0182   7.42   0.961    491   0.971       13.24   1459       1.324
> >   7  0.0214   6.83   0.879    535   0.964        8.75   1558       0.875
> >   8  0.0247   6.36   0.885    597   0.956        6.70   1755       0.670
> >   9  0.0280   5.98   0.939    693   0.947        7.16   2003       0.716
> >  10  0.0312   5.66   0.807    697   0.935        4.97   2042       0.497
> >  11  0.0345   5.38   0.815    757   0.921        5.53   2195       0.553
> >  12  0.0378   5.15   0.910    878   0.904        6.08   2547       0.608
> >  13  0.0410   4.94   0.913    890   0.884        7.49   2582       0.749
> >  14  0.0443   4.75   0.906    934   0.861        7.42   2710       0.742
> >  15  0.0476   4.58   0.824    976   0.834        5.06   2695       0.506
> >  16  0.0508   4.44   0.812   1010   0.802        5.32   2859       0.532
> >  17  0.0541   4.30   0.843   1099   0.767        5.25   3126       0.525
> >  18  0.0574   4.17   0.862   1030   0.727        4.49   2790       0.449
> >  19  0.0606   4.06   0.752   1115   0.683        3.04   2927       0.304
> >  20  0.0639   3.96   0.675    439   0.636        2.53   1117       0.253
> >  21  0.0672   3.86   0.139    176   0.586        1.64    393       0.164
> >  22  0.0704   3.77   0.734   1082   0.534        2.65   2641       0.265
> >  23  0.0737   3.68    -         -    -            -        -        -
> >  24  0.0770   3.60   0.489    681   0.429        2.20   1633       0.220
> >  25  0.0802   3.53   0.358   1430   0.378        1.85   3248       0.185
> >  26  0.0835   3.46  -0.428     12   0.330        1.38     22       0.138
> >  27  0.0868   3.39   0.390    663   0.285        1.73   1404       0.173
> >  28  0.0900   3.33   0.128   1443   0.244        1.39   2946       0.139
> >  29  0.0933   3.27   0.149   1372   0.207        1.37   2835       0.137
> >  30  0.0966   3.22   0.183   1578   0.175        1.40   3202       0.140
> >
> > Thanks ahead.
>
>
>
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