To avoid misunderstandings, since I received a couple of emails already:

Is it important to make such a resource available to developers? Absolutely?

? was a typo. I meant Absolutely!
I think such data are essential for development of better processing software, and I find the development of better
processing software of paramount importance!

we can of course now have a referendum to decide in the best curse of action! :-(

Curse was not a typo.
I am Greek. Today, thinking of referendums, I see many curses of action, and limited courses of action.

A.


A.

PS Rob, you are of course right about sequencing costs, but I was only trying to paint the bigger picture...



On Oct 31, 2011, at 18:00, Frank von Delft wrote:

"Loathe being forced to do things"? You mean, like being forced to use
programs developed by others at no cost to yourself?

I'm in a bit of a time-warp here - how exactly do users think our
current suite of software got to be as astonishingly good as it is? 10 years ago people (non-developers) were saying exactly the same things - yet almost every talk on phasing and auto-building that I've heard ends
up acknowledging the JCSG datasets.

Must have been a waste of time then, I suppose.

phx.




On 31/10/2011 16:29, Adrian Goldman wrote:
I have no problem with this idea as an opt-in. However I loathe being forced to do things - for my own good or anyone else's. But unless I read the tenor of this discussion completely wrongly, opt- in is precisely what is not being proposed.

Adrian Goldman

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On 31 Oct 2011, at 18:02, Jacob Keller<j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu > wrote:

Dear Crystallographers,

I am sending this to try to start a thread which addresses only the
specific issue of whether to archive, at least as a start, images
corresponding to PDB-deposited structures. I believe there could be a
real consensus about the low cost and usefulness of this degree of
archiving, but the discussion keeps swinging around to all levels of archiving, obfuscating who's for what and for what reason. What about
this level, alone? All of the accompanying info is already entered
into the PDB, so there would be no additional costs on that score.
There could just be a simple link, added to the "download files"
pulldown, which could say "go to image archive," or something along
those lines. Images would be pre-zipped, maybe even tarred, and people
could just download from there. What's so bad?

The benefits are that sometimes there are structures in which
resolution cutoffs might be unreasonable, or perhaps there is some
potential radiation damage in the later frames that might be
deleterious to interpretations, or perhaps there are ugly features in
the images which are invisible or obscure in the statistics.

In any case, it seems to me that this step would be pretty painless, as it is merely an extension of the current system--just add a link to
the pulldown menu!

Best Regards,

Jacob Keller

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