I also like our Nanodrop, but I do not recommend using it for Bradford 
measurements.

The 25% accuracy mentioned by Flip is pretty good for biological samples.  
Using 50 ul cuvette in a traditional spectrophotometer will not give this 
accuracy because cleanness of the cuvette will be a big issue...

Alex

On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:

> I completely disagree with Filip’s assessment. I’ve been using nanodrop 
> nearly 5 years and never had inconsistency issues. If you work at reasonable 
> speed (if you put a drop there then lower the lever and click measure before 
> you do anything else) there will be no issues. At very high concentrations 
> the accuracy and therefore consistency may become lower. Concentrations 
> between 5 and 10 mg/ml should be fine. The instrument is pricey though.
>  
>      Vaheh 
>  
>  
>  
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Filip 
> Van Petegem
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:34 PM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Nanodrop versus Nanophotomter Pearl versus good old 
> Bradford.
>  
> Dear Arnon,
>  
> the Bradford method is not recommended for accurate measurements.  The 
> readings are strongly dependent on the amino acid composition.  A much better 
> method is using the absorption at 280nm under denaturing conditions (6M 
> Guanidine), and using calculated extinction coefficients based on the 
> composition of mostly Tyrosine and Tryptophan residues (+ disulfide bonds).  
> This method is also old (Edelhoch, 1967), but very reliable.
>  
> One thing about the nanodrop: smaller volume = more evaporation.  On the demo 
> we've had, I was so unimpressed with the precision (>25% variability between 
> two consecutive measurement) that we didn't consider this instrument at all.  
> So unless you just want a 'rough' estimate, I wouldn't recommend it at all. 
> But most respectable spectrophotometers will take cuvettes with 50ul volumes 
> - a big step up from 1ml volumes...
>  
> Filip Van Petegem
>  
>  
>   
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Arnon Lavie <la...@uic.edu> wrote:
> Dear fellow crystallographers - a question about spectrophotometers for 
> protein concentration determination.
> 
> We are so last millennium - using Bradford reagent/ 1 ml cuvette for protein 
> conc. determination.
> 
> We have been considering buying a Nanodrop machine (small volume, no dilution 
> needed, fast, easy).
> However, while testing our samples using a colleague's machine, we have 
> gotten readings up to 100% different to our Bradford assay (all fully 
> purified proteins). For example, Bradford says 6 mg/ml, Nanodrop 3 mg/ml. So 
> while it is fun/easy to use the Nanodrop, I am not sure how reliable are the 
> measurements (your thoughts?).
> 
> So QUESTION 1: What are people's experience regarding the correlation between 
> Nanodrop and Bradford?
> 
> While researching the Nanodrop machine, I heard about the Implen 
> NanoPhotmeter Pearl.
> So Question 2: Is the Pearl better/worse/same as the Nanodrop for our purpose?
> 
> Thank you for helping us to advance to the next millennium, even if it is 
> nearly a dozen years late.
> 
> Arnon
> 
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> 
> -- 
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> The University of British Columbia
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