If I can chip into this somewhat sacrilegiously-named thread

1) I *would* use real-space refinement :), specifically Sphere Refinement. You can dial down the
   density weight if needed, of course.

2) the documentation on refining carbohydrates in Coot has recently been updated

http://www.biop.ox.ac.uk/coot/doc/coot/Refining-Carbohydrates.html

3) Coot does not (yet) correct chiral centre inversions in glycosidic linkages on refinement

4) or delete the O1s :)

Paul.



Robbie Joosten wrote:
Dear Steve,

I would also use Damian's approach, but the sequence of the core should be
NAG-NAG-BMA-(MAN)2. This is improtant because the correct stereochemistry
restraints for beta-mannose can only be applied when you call the residue
BMA.
Building carbohydrates also comes with special validation requirements.
PDB-care and CARP are both very usefull. Unfortunately, the service is
currently down (http://www.dkfz.de/spec/glycosciences.de). Just make sure
the links between your carbs are correct and, please, remove the O1 atoms
when needed ;)

Cheers,
Robbie Joosten

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:48:31 -0800
From: dceki...@scripps.edu
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Coot pudding? (a.k.a N-linked carbohydrate addition)
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Steve,

My general strategy is to start with an "ideal" glycan (an Asn linked to
NAG-NAG-(MAN)3 ) and superimpose the Asn on the residue from my protein.
Then you can move the whole glycan as a rigid body until the Asn and
first NAG are roughly positioned. Then you can tweak any sugars further
out on the chain to get them to fit. Unless you have really great
density, usually it is best to avoid real pace refine zone. Better to
fit the sugars using the manual rigid body fitting tools, do the best
you can, then REFMAC usually brings them in OK.

I have some models that I could send you if you need them.

Best,

Damian Ekiert



Soisson, Stephen M wrote:
Hi everyone-

I was searching for some information on what might be the best way to
add N-linked sugars in coot, and Google has let me down. Searching
"adding sugars in coot" returns a very nice recipe for Coot Pudding.

***_Recipe for_/ Coot//__/_ Pudding - American_/ Coots/*
******** It has plenty of fat,/
sugar/, and starch, and probably some calcium from the milk.* ...* The/
coots/ will not tolerate/ adding/ eggs in any form, so this is an egg*
...*
///_www.beaky_//_*coot*.com/pudding.html_///
///// -/ _Similar_
//



I did not know that coots had such an aversion to eggs. :)

Anyway, would anyone have any top tips on adding N-linked sugars using
coot? I can import the NAG monomers, but linking them up to the protein
seems non-trivial

Many thanks in advance,

Steve


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