Hi,

I have gone back and re-ran an old Refmac 5 job using CCP46.1.1 and noticed dramatic differences on the final Rfree / Rwork and geometric parameters. The job was re-ran using the "re-run" button on CCP4, same input files (.mtz, .pdb) same number of cycles, etc.

The geometry restraints and weights for both jobs were identical and are listed below (copied from the log file):

   ****          Geometry restraints and weights           ****
                                               Sigma:
Bonding distances
         Weight =  0.50

Bond angles
         Weight =  0.50

Planar groups
         WEIGHT= 1.00

Chiral centers
         Weight= 0.50

NON-BONDED CONTACTS
         Overall weight                          =  1.00
         Sigma for simple VDW                    =  0.20
         Sigma for VDW trhough torsion angle     =  0.20
         Sigma for HBOND                         =  0.20
         Sigma for metal-ion                     =  0.20
         Sigma for DUMMY and other atom          =  0.30
         Distance for donor-accepetor = vdw1+vdw2+(-0.30)
         Distance for acceptor - H    = vdw1+     ( 0.10)
         VDW distance through torsion = vdw1+vdw2+(-0.30)
         Distance for DUMMY-others    = vdw1+vdw2+(-0.70)

TORSION ANGLES
         Weight= 1.00

THERMAL FACTORS
         Weight= 1.00
    Main chain bond (1-2 neighbour)          1.5A**2
    Main chain angle (1-3 neighbour)         2.0A**2
    Side chain bond                          3.0A**2
    Side chain angle                         4.5A**2

RESTRAINTS AGAINST EXCESSIVE SHIFTS
    Positional parameters                   0.00A
    Thermal parameters                      0.00A
    Occupancy parameters                    0.00

RADIUS OF CONFIDENCE
    Positional parameters 0.30A
    Thermal parameters    0.03A**2
    Occupancy parameters  0.50

The new Refmac5 is version 5.5.0072.
The old Refmac5 is version 5.2.0019.

The final line on the "new" refinement job is:
Ncyc Rfact Rfree FOM -LL -LLfree rmsBOND zBOND rmsANGL zANGL rmsCHIRAL $$ 30 0.1581 0.2037 0.874 245851. 8051.9 0.0468 1.958 3.088 1.500 0.296

The final line on the "old" refinement job is:
Ncyc Rfact Rfree FOM LLG rmsBOND rmsANGL rmsCHIRAL $$ 30 0.171 0.204 0.865 257924.2 0.025 2.088 0.155

Things very different on the "new" version:
- The rmsANGL shot up (from 2.088 to 3.088);
- The rmsBOND also shot up (from 0.25 to 0.0468).

As a consequence of having my geometric constrains blown up, the Rwork went considerably down.

Does anybody have any thoughts on why using the same geometry restraints led to very different results?

Cheers,

Rafael.


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Rafael Couñago
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
Department of Biochemistry
University of Otago

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