Hi All,

thanks for the responses. It seems that coomassie linearity is not so bad after all, especially when measured by IR fluorescence (reference from Steve Darnell). Others mentioned silver stain, but it seems that silver has a narrower dynamic range, even though more sensitive. Sypro and Biorad flamingo seem linear, and as sensitive as silver. But...for the fluorescent dyes, one optimally needs a fluorescence scanner.

Thanks all,

Jacob Keller

ps The original coomassie reference seems to be

S. Fazekas de St. Groth, R.G. Webster and A. Datyner, Two new staining procedures for quantitative estimation of proteins on electrophoretic strips, Biochim. Biophys. Acta 71 (1963), pp. 377-391.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Alushin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The Bio-Rad Flamingo Fluorescent Gel Stain has a very linear profile with protein concentration (if you believe the standard curves in the manual). In my hands it gives nice results for binding assays.

Cheers,
-Greg Alushin

On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:

Dear Crystallographers,

I remember having seen on this listserve that coomassie stain is horribly non-linear in intensity per protein concentration, which leads me to two questions:

1. Does anybody have a reference for quantitation of coomassie's linearity (and possibly other stains), i.e. where and how extensive the linear range is, and
2. Can anybody suggest a more linear protein gel stain?

Thanks,

Jacob Keller

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Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
Dallos Laboratory
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Evanston IL 60208
lab: 847.491.2438
cel: 773.608.9185
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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