Hi y'all.

One nice cheat is to get a groovy little web server to do the work for you:

http://www.liv.ac.uk/buffers/

Enter your requirements and you'll get a nice little recipe given back.

Dave

2008/7/22 Nadir T. Mrabet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I bet it is more difficult to adjust a pH-meter than to use the
> Henderson-Hasselbalch equation
> and still get the expected pH with a pretty good accuracy especially if your
> work near the pKa.
>
> There are actually two ways to prepare this 25 mM buffer, pH 4.5.
>
> The pKa of acetate is 4.76 at 25 °C (with dpKa/° C = +0.0002, so don't worry
> too much about this).
> Reference is "Buffers for pH and Metal Ion Control", Perrin & Dempsey,
> Chapman & Hall, NY, ISBN 0 412 21890 9.
>
> High-grade glacial acetic acid (99-100%) is 18 N.
> Make a stock solution of 250 mM (eg 3.472 mL for 1.0 L final). Keep is a
> dark, tightly closed bottle.
>
> Make a stock solution of 250 mM sodium acetate (if you use FW, not MW, to
> calculate mass to use, then no worry about anhydrous or not since water is
> also taken into account if present)
>
> or
>
> make a stock solution of 5N NaOH. Keep is a dark, tightly closed bottle.
>
> Use then the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation (HH), pH = pKa + log
> ([A-]/[AH]).
>
> In the first case, you write it : 4.5 = 4.76 + log ([sodium acetate]/[acetic
> acid])
> Second equation is [sodium acetate] + [acetic acid] = 25 mM
> which gives [sodium acetate] = 8.886 mM and [acetic acid] = 16.134 mM.
> For 1.0 L buffer, mix adequate volumes of stock solutions of sodium acetate
> and acetic acid and complete with water (add acid after un first fill with
> water to ~ 800 mL).
>
> In the second case, the HH is written 4.5 = 4.76 + log([NaOH])/(25 -
> [NaOH]),
> which gives [NaOH] = 8.886 mM (same result as above for sodium acetate which
> was then the base).
>
> The added advantage of using HH and stock solutions is that even if your pH
> is not exactly 4.5, say 4.55, if you make a new buffer the next day or even
> the next month,
> your buffer will have the same pH value. I don't expect you can ever achieve
> such a repeatability using a pH-meter.
>
> HTH,
>
> Nadir Mrabet
>
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>
>
> William G. Scott wrote:
>>
>> So what, then, will be the concentration of the acetate ion in your stock
>> solution when you have finished?
>>
>> (Disclaimer:  I get to teach this stuff periodically in remedial chemistry
>> as a punishment for deployment of excessive sarcasm during faculty
>> meetings.)
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 6:10 AM, Santosh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Make a  1M Na-Acetate do not make up to the 1 Ltr volume. Leave some
>>> extra
>>> volume and now start adding Acetic acid till you get pH 4.5 (Glacial
>>> Acetic
>>> Acid).
>>> Now make up the volume to 1ltr or how much ever you are deciding to make
>>> the
>>> 50X stock solution.
>>> Best,
>>> Santosh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM, William G. Scott <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a job for the trusty Henderson-Hasselbalch equation:
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henderson-Hasselbalch_equation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Meg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to prepare 25 mM sodium acetate buffer pH 4.5. can anyone give
>>>>> the
>>>>> exact composition of how to prepare it. we prepare it using sodium
>>>>> acetate
>>>>> and acetic acid combination. i am not able to arrive at the
>>>>> calculatation
>>>>> correctly, so if anyone can  explain me with the above buffer how to
>>>>> calculate. and what sodium acetate [Anhydrous / trihydrate] and acetic
>>>>> acid
>>>>> [glacial/ plain] to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks n regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Meg goyal,
>>>>> M.SC Biotechnology [Research]
>>>>> Institute of science,
>>>>> Fort
>>>>> Mumbai, INDIA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>



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