Why not get an in-line, flow-cell LS detector for use with your chromatography system? We once had a great system, set up with a good SEC column, UV detection at three wavelengths on an akta, followed by SLS and DLS, and refractive index detector. The data were beautiful, as the SEC made the background very clean, and one could see easily the degree of mono/polydispersity of the SEC peak(s). It was not, however, inexpensive.

Jacob Keller

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor Witte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] DLS options?


Hmmm...
we had a demo of the Malvern Zetasizer instrument here, and to be honest: It
did not convince us at all (it is obviously built for non-biological
particle analysis)....

The Viscotek is also a plug&play device, every pc with a USB is suitable.

..in the end... Viscotek and Malvern are the same company now(!)

I guess the price for a DLS instrument is more or less independent of the
company.... aren't they all approx. 30-35k euros for a single-cuvette
system?


Gregor


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I'll second the recommendation for the Malvern Zetasizer. They are
rock-simple and interface with a computer through USB which makes future
computer upgrades relatively simple. The are however, not cheap--oops,
inexpensive.

Cheers,


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Andreas Förster wrote:
Hey Thomas,

also consider Malvern instruments.  Their Zetasizers are really sweet
and work with volumes smaller than 15ul if you use the smallest cuvette.
http://www.malvern.com/LabEng/products/zetasizer/zetasizer.htm

The last DynaPro that I've used, half as old as the universe but
equipped with a 12ul cuvette, gave me really nice results also.  Key is,
as you discovered, to keep the cuvette meticulously clean.  I used
Pierce's RBS 35 Detergent for cleaning.  Make a 2-5% dilution in a 50-ml
beaker, heat to 70C in the microwave with the cuvette inside, let sit
for a while, rinse with water and EtOH, and dry.  Only touch with gloves
afterwards.

The protein sample must be spun down before the experiment.  Half an
hour at 13k in an Eppendorf centrifuge is sufficient.  Make sure to
avoid bubbles when adding the sample to the cuvette.

Ah, nice data!

Hope that helps.


Andreas


Thomas Edwards wrote:

Dear BB,



Sorry for the off topic question:



I would like to buy a Dynamic Light Scattering system.

Could people suggest which they like the best and/or which is best value?



I have in the past used a Protein Solutions Dyna Pro with micro cuvette
(I would like a micro cuvette option). However, it was very sensitive to
dust and bubbles, and the cuvette collects dust.

I've never tried the one from Precision Detectors.

Any other options?



Thanks

Ed



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