Thanks Dara for your addition.

So I think that case you explained is known as the pipe-mode.. and of course
the useage of the QOS-group will be very usefull in this case. but also I
know another method to implement it which is the Explicit-null label where
instead of poping the label on the penultimate device it's just swapped to a
null " 0 " label to keep the Exp value of the topmost label. am I right ?

Thanks
Ahmed

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:26 PM, dara tomar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *Hi Ahmed,
>
> In addition to the to the points mentioned in other mails, for when and
> where should we use the QOS-GRP id's.
>
> We specifically in an MPLS environment have to (necessarily ) use the
> qos-grp id's, when the exp value on the labels are different and we have a
> pop operation for the label, hence while queuing the packet on the exit
> interface we  cannot use the newly exposed MPLS EXP value, so what we do is
> store temporarily the EXP value in the qos-grp id and make a decision in its
> accordance on the exit interface.we sometime as well use it to propagate the
> qos grp value to the EXP/Precedence to the newly exposed label on the exit
> interface.
>
> In case of Internetworkexpert's lab it has been used many time
> unnecessarily, may be just to make us learn!!!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Dara*
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM, ahmed mahmoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Good day All.
>>
>> I have something to add here..  I understand the usage of the qos-groups
>> but i don't understand why we need them?!!  aren't the marking enough for
>> traffic categorization ? like DSCP , IP-precedence or the mpls exp bits !!!
>> .
>>
>> Ahmed
>>
>>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:19 PM, JH Cockburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi M,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Using qos-groups is not limited to PE routers only. In fact you may use
>>> it anywhere where you think it can make life easier…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So the idea is that you can match certain packets and mark them in a
>>> certain qos-group and then later/elsewhere do stuff with the qos-group…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example match packets with a certain MPLS EXP COS value (on P router)
>>> and set them to a qos-group and later maybe shape or apply WRED based on the
>>> qos-group on another interface…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t13/feature/guide/ftenpkmk.html#wp1090481
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May also be used in IPSEC Configs:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3t/12_3t8/feature/guide/gtqosips.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *mohamed hamed
>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2008 10:36 PM
>>> *To:* OSL CCIE Service Provider Lab Exam
>>> *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_SP] QoS group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where we should use the QoS group on P or PE Router?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I understand that we usually use it on PE router, but I found some
>>> Labs on the internetwork expert use it on P router as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone knows why we should use QoS grouo on P routers , please unicast
>>> me a mail back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Mohamed Hamed*
>>>
>>> *Network Consulting Engineer***
>>>
>>> *Mobile** (KSA-Riyadh): +966543464502*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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