I'm all in favor of 4 hour timewlots. As it is, I rarely use my 8 hour
slots because I almost never have that kind of time to set aside. I don't
wish to burn 8 hours when i know I can only sit for 2 to 4 hours, but i
would if i knew I could block of smaller increments....
On Jun 3, 2012 10:45 AM, "Ken Wyan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Many needs 4 hours timeslots & Proctorlabs has 8 hours timeslots only for
> atleast another few months.
>
> Is it ok to teem-up with someone in another time-zone & share our rack-time
> with him. ( Eg:  I book a 8 hour timeslot & send & email to support to
> split session & let other partner to utilize same rack for remaining 4
> hours & vice-versa). We can find somebody to share through OSL.
>
> Can I get an official response from Proctorlabs as this requires little
> more overhead on technicians.
>
> Ken.
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Marian Franc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > I got exactly the same problems/feelings, however my time for the 1st try
> > is much shorter than yours. I think I will need to retake the written as
> I
> > have not gone through a single workbook yet, hoping IPX will provide
> 4hour
> > vrack time slots in the meantime... as I really will not be able to keep
> > focused in the 8 hour slot and not waste the vouchers coming home after
> > whole day dealing with the routers there!
> >
> > Possibly, can we 2 make a team and prepare together for our exams and
> > maybe build an alternative remote rack and work together on the
> workbooks?
> >
> > Marian
> >
> > Odoslané z iPadu / Sent from iPad
> >
> > Dňa 2.6.2012, o 23:24, [email protected] napísal:
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> > >   1. Staying motivated (robert shepherd)
> > >   2. MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS (Router Router)
> > >   3. : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS (Router Router)
> > >   4. Re: Staying motivated (Bob McCouch)
> > >   5. Re: Staying motivated (Jay McMickle)
> > >   6. Re: Staying motivated (Erica Cooper)
> > >   7. Re: Staying motivated (Fender Fenderovich)
> > >   8. Re: Staying motivated (Anthony Sequeira)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <[email protected]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated.
> > I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> > book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it
> is
> > tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> > evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so
> > that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:56:47 +0530
> > > From: Router Router <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <cadcyhq6cvs9gxenjxxtjwxi1or7t8pondz0o-end2smz0pj...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share
> > the
> > > same.
> > >
> > > Please add me in google talk or email me
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:57:14 +0530
> > > From: Router Router <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <CADcYhQ66qPFn=h1fexanrmzeohdm638b3lkdfn3qf448vg9...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share
> > the
> > >> same.
> > >>
> > >> Please add me in google talk or email me
> > >>
> > >> thanks
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:35:59 -0400
> > > From: Bob McCouch <[email protected]>
> > > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID: <-3280262522703130984@unknownmsgid>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Book your lab!
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > --
> > > Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos.
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> > motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> > picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for
> a
> > SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> > study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must
> attempt
> > the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >>
> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:02:47 -0500
> > > From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
> > > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > I personally had to switch up my Vendors and enforce a "rest rule".I
> > made myself commit to at least 3 hours a day. I would use IPX VOL1 to
> learn
> > the material. My issue was that I am very detail oriented and it would
> take
> > me a few days to make it through a single VOL1 lab. At the rate I was
> > going, it would take me 6 months to get through VOL1. I also recognized
> > that IPX prepares you for the worst scenario so you are prepared for
> > anything. However, this deminished my spirit over time because it was
> very
> > hard. I need to get a glimpse of something easier from time to time. So,
> I
> > added a second vendors workbooks'.
> > >
> > > So, I would do an IPX VOL 1 lab and force myself to complete it in two
> > days (6 hours of lab time). I would further that same technology based
> lab
> > from another vendor.I mapped out the labs that I would complete in Excel.
> > It would look like this:
> > > Mon/Tuesday- IPX VOL1, lab 1
> > > Wed- Vendor 2- similar lab as Mon/Tues lab, but easier
> > > Thurs- off
> > >
> > > Fri/Sat- IPX VOL1, lab 2
> > > Sun- Vendor 2- similar lab as Fri/Sat lab, but easier
> > > Mon- rest
> > >
> > > With this formula, I would compete IPX VOL1 and Vendor 2 labs in 4
> > months, while not letting myself get burned out.
> > >
> > > I then started IPX VOL3 mock labs. When I got to a technology I didn't
> > know, I flipped to that VOL1 based lab and read through the answer, and
> > then tried to apply it to the VOL3 lab without looking. If I had to look
> at
> > VOL3, I would, and keep moving on.
> > >
> > > For my personally, I also noticed that I learned better from seeing a
> > working example. I would do a troubleshooting section twice. The first
> > attempt would be with me trying each ticket on my own, then reading the
> > answer, and typing out the solution and watch it work. I would learn
> > verification methods (which proved to be very valuable). I would then do
> > the same lab again the next day.
> > >
> > > Mon- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble with looking
> > > Tue- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble without looking
> > > Wed- rest
> > > Lab 2, and so on
> > > That came out to about a month.
> > >
> > > I took those skills and technologies to VOL3 Config sections as I would
> > learn what made things work, and my mind would reverse engineer how to
> > build them since I know what a final working product was. There was
> still a
> > large gap, but I had something to build on, I was learning, and it was
> > exciting at the same time.
> > >
> > > As long as I was learning, it wasn't tooooo hard and over challenging,
> I
> > was able to shut down my rack with a smile. That mixed with a mandatory
> > rest day, was a good receipe.
> > >
> > > When I got through VOL3, I would spend 3 days at 3-4 hours a day.
> > > Mon/Tues/Wed- IPX VOL3 lab1 config
> > > Thu- rest
> > > Fri/Sat/Sun- IPX VOL3 Lab 2 config
> > > Mon- rest
> > > This took another 30 days
> > >
> > > I then did VOL3 again, but I put more time into it. I would force
> myself
> > to complete a config portion IPX lab every two days. This was tough, but
> I
> > was focused as my lab date was approaching.
> > >
> > > Mon/Tue- Lab1
> > > Wed/Thu- Lab2
> > > Fri- rest
> > > Repeat
> > > This took 25 days
> > >
> > > So, I was 7 months into it, and my lab date was about 2 months out. I
> > took a bootcamp from vendor2, and realized I wasn't going to pass. But, I
> > had solid foundation, but QoS and advanced services was still lacking.
> > >
> > > I took the exam, and failed. BUT, I was relaxed because I knew I wasn't
> > going to pass. I had three other buddies (Steve DiBias, Marc Abel, and
> > Chris Moore) with me that day, but only Steve passed.
> > >
> > > I went back and started vendor 2 workbooks, Cisco 360 mock labs, and
> > still referenced IPX material for gap fillers.
> > >
> > > I passed May 1st.
> > >
> > > There are alot more details, as the timeline would show, because it
> took
> > me two years to the day to pass on my second attempt. I wondered around
> for
> > the first year before I caught the CCIE bug and got serious.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps you. My thumbs are tired from typing this out on an
> > iPhone!
> > >
> > > Good luck- keep the fire burning.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> > > Sent from iJay
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:56 AM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> > motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> > picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for
> a
> > SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> > study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must
> attempt
> > the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >>
> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:12:30 -0400
> > > From: Erica Cooper <[email protected]>
> > > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > You know that is a great question, I was in the situation, what I did
> > was carve out 2-3 hours about twice out of the week.  Then on the
> weekends
> > were my long days. What drove me were the people around me and my work
> > situation.
> > >
> > > I had to adjust my train of thinking... I knew in order to accomplish
> my
> > goals I had to put in the time.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Erica
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 12:56 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> > motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> > picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for
> a
> > SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> > study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must
> attempt
> > the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >>
> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:16:17 +0300
> > > From: Fender Fenderovich <[email protected]>
> > > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <capd3ismgdzcg-0mh0xmueovusjxzamx3efvxsbcr9p8xs1k...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Try setting micro goals and complete them - this should boost your
> > > selfesteem and may motivate you to go on. That's a good method not to
> > give
> > > up for almost any big project.
> > >
> > > Listen to the the VODs read by more emphatic trainers, such as Jeremy
> > > Cioara (he has some 2006ish CCIE VODs) or Scott Morris - I often had a
> > gool
> > > laugh watching them, and this helped to stay on track too.
> > >
> > > Pull yourself together and make some Anki flash-cards with various
> useful
> > > stuff for exam, not only will they preserve you current knowledge, but
> > > getting good scores with those decks has to add some motivation too.
> > >
> > > And finally, from time to time think about the point why you have
> started
> > > all this initially and what it's gonna get you to, especially what will
> > you
> > > feel when you are finally done. Imagine that!
> > >
> > > You have to try and add some emotions to the process, at least that's
> > how I
> > > think and do to keep myself up.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Slava
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM, robert shepherd <
> [email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> > motivated. I
> > >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> > >> book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and
> > it is
> > >> tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> > >> evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam
> > so
> > >> that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please
> > >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >>
> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:24:48 -0700
> > > From: Anthony Sequeira <[email protected]>
> > > To: 'robert shepherd' <[email protected]>,
> > >    "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <
> >
> df93819ca7ed6b4ca08ce919934f65a801484774f...@exvmbx015-6.exch015.msoutlookonline.net
> > >
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Since I really do not HAVE to pursue additional CCIEs, I found
> > motivation for my second to be VERY, VERY difficult.
> > >
> > > To deal with that, I not only set up a very aggressive schedule - I
> made
> > it public...
> >
> http://blog.ipexpert.com/2012/05/25/anthony-sequeiras-ccie-security-challenge/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of robert shepherd
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:56 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > >
> > > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated.
> > I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> > book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it
> is
> > tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> > evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so
> > that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >
> > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> > >
> > >
> > > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 77, Issue 3
> > > **************************************
> > >
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