Hi Robert, I got exactly the same problems/feelings, however my time for the 1st try is much shorter than yours. I think I will need to retake the written as I have not gone through a single workbook yet, hoping IPX will provide 4hour vrack time slots in the meantime... as I really will not be able to keep focused in the 8 hour slot and not waste the vouchers coming home after whole day dealing with the routers there!
Possibly, can we 2 make a team and prepare together for our exams and maybe build an alternative remote rack and work together on the workbooks? Marian Odoslané z iPadu / Sent from iPad Dňa 2.6.2012, o 23:24, [email protected] napísal: > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Staying motivated (robert shepherd) > 2. MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS (Router Router) > 3. : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS (Router Router) > 4. Re: Staying motivated (Bob McCouch) > 5. Re: Staying motivated (Jay McMickle) > 6. Re: Staying motivated (Erica Cooper) > 7. Re: Staying motivated (Fender Fenderovich) > 8. Re: Staying motivated (Anthony Sequeira) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT) > From: robert shepherd <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I > have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a book, > viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is tough > to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the evenings and > weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so that is on my > side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:56:47 +0530 > From: Router Router <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS > Message-ID: > <cadcyhq6cvs9gxenjxxtjwxi1or7t8pondz0o-end2smz0pj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Guys, > > I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share the > same. > > Please add me in google talk or email me > > thanks > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:57:14 +0530 > From: Router Router <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS > Message-ID: > <CADcYhQ66qPFn=h1fexanrmzeohdm638b3lkdfn3qf448vg9...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> >> >> I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share the >> same. >> >> Please add me in google talk or email me >> >> thanks >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:35:59 -0400 > From: Bob McCouch <[email protected]> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: <-3280262522703130984@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Book your lab! > > Bob > -- > Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos. > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a book, >> viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is tough >> to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the evenings >> and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so that is on >> my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:02:47 -0500 > From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I personally had to switch up my Vendors and enforce a "rest rule".I made > myself commit to at least 3 hours a day. I would use IPX VOL1 to learn the > material. My issue was that I am very detail oriented and it would take me a > few days to make it through a single VOL1 lab. At the rate I was going, it > would take me 6 months to get through VOL1. I also recognized that IPX > prepares you for the worst scenario so you are prepared for anything. > However, this deminished my spirit over time because it was very hard. I need > to get a glimpse of something easier from time to time. So, I added a second > vendors workbooks'. > > So, I would do an IPX VOL 1 lab and force myself to complete it in two days > (6 hours of lab time). I would further that same technology based lab from > another vendor.I mapped out the labs that I would complete in Excel. It would > look like this: > Mon/Tuesday- IPX VOL1, lab 1 > Wed- Vendor 2- similar lab as Mon/Tues lab, but easier > Thurs- off > > Fri/Sat- IPX VOL1, lab 2 > Sun- Vendor 2- similar lab as Fri/Sat lab, but easier > Mon- rest > > With this formula, I would compete IPX VOL1 and Vendor 2 labs in 4 months, > while not letting myself get burned out. > > I then started IPX VOL3 mock labs. When I got to a technology I didn't know, > I flipped to that VOL1 based lab and read through the answer, and then tried > to apply it to the VOL3 lab without looking. If I had to look at VOL3, I > would, and keep moving on. > > For my personally, I also noticed that I learned better from seeing a working > example. I would do a troubleshooting section twice. The first attempt would > be with me trying each ticket on my own, then reading the answer, and typing > out the solution and watch it work. I would learn verification methods (which > proved to be very valuable). I would then do the same lab again the next day. > > Mon- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble with looking > Tue- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble without looking > Wed- rest > Lab 2, and so on > That came out to about a month. > > I took those skills and technologies to VOL3 Config sections as I would learn > what made things work, and my mind would reverse engineer how to build them > since I know what a final working product was. There was still a large gap, > but I had something to build on, I was learning, and it was exciting at the > same time. > > As long as I was learning, it wasn't tooooo hard and over challenging, I was > able to shut down my rack with a smile. That mixed with a mandatory rest day, > was a good receipe. > > When I got through VOL3, I would spend 3 days at 3-4 hours a day. > Mon/Tues/Wed- IPX VOL3 lab1 config > Thu- rest > Fri/Sat/Sun- IPX VOL3 Lab 2 config > Mon- rest > This took another 30 days > > I then did VOL3 again, but I put more time into it. I would force myself to > complete a config portion IPX lab every two days. This was tough, but I was > focused as my lab date was approaching. > > Mon/Tue- Lab1 > Wed/Thu- Lab2 > Fri- rest > Repeat > This took 25 days > > So, I was 7 months into it, and my lab date was about 2 months out. I took a > bootcamp from vendor2, and realized I wasn't going to pass. But, I had solid > foundation, but QoS and advanced services was still lacking. > > I took the exam, and failed. BUT, I was relaxed because I knew I wasn't going > to pass. I had three other buddies (Steve DiBias, Marc Abel, and Chris Moore) > with me that day, but only Steve passed. > > I went back and started vendor 2 workbooks, Cisco 360 mock labs, and still > referenced IPX material for gap fillers. > > I passed May 1st. > > There are alot more details, as the timeline would show, because it took me > two years to the day to pass on my second attempt. I wondered around for the > first year before I caught the CCIE bug and got serious. > > I hope this helps you. My thumbs are tired from typing this out on an iPhone! > > Good luck- keep the fire burning. > > > Regards, > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) > Sent from iJay > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:56 AM, robert shepherd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a book, >> viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is tough >> to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the evenings >> and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so that is on >> my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:12:30 -0400 > From: Erica Cooper <[email protected]> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > You know that is a great question, I was in the situation, what I did was > carve out 2-3 hours about twice out of the week. Then on the weekends were > my long days. What drove me were the people around me and my work situation. > > I had to adjust my train of thinking... I knew in order to accomplish my > goals I had to put in the time. > > HTH > > Sent from my iPhone > > Thanks, > > Erica > > On Jun 2, 2012, at 12:56 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a book, >> viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is tough >> to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the evenings >> and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so that is on >> my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:16:17 +0300 > From: Fender Fenderovich <[email protected]> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: > <capd3ismgdzcg-0mh0xmueovusjxzamx3efvxsbcr9p8xs1k...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Try setting micro goals and complete them - this should boost your > selfesteem and may motivate you to go on. That's a good method not to give > up for almost any big project. > > Listen to the the VODs read by more emphatic trainers, such as Jeremy > Cioara (he has some 2006ish CCIE VODs) or Scott Morris - I often had a gool > laugh watching them, and this helped to stay on track too. > > Pull yourself together and make some Anki flash-cards with various useful > stuff for exam, not only will they preserve you current knowledge, but > getting good scores with those decks has to add some motivation too. > > And finally, from time to time think about the point why you have started > all this initially and what it's gonna get you to, especially what will you > feel when you are finally done. Imagine that! > > You have to try and add some emotions to the process, at least that's how I > think and do to keep myself up. > > Best regards, Slava > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM, robert shepherd > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a >> book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is >> tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the >> evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so >> that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:24:48 -0700 > From: Anthony Sequeira <[email protected]> > To: 'robert shepherd' <[email protected]>, > "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > Message-ID: > > <df93819ca7ed6b4ca08ce919934f65a801484774f...@exvmbx015-6.exch015.msoutlookonline.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Since I really do not HAVE to pursue additional CCIEs, I found motivation for > my second to be VERY, VERY difficult. > > To deal with that, I not only set up a very aggressive schedule - I made it > public... > http://blog.ipexpert.com/2012/05/25/anthony-sequeiras-ccie-security-challenge/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robert shepherd > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated > > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated. I > have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a book, > viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is tough > to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the evenings and > weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so that is on my > side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 77, Issue 3 > ************************************** > _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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