Hi Allen, Alex and Builders,
I must say that I also think like Alex, who's to say that the builds
done on a CI server are any worse than those done locally by PMC's.

I understand that CI server is far from a clean room environment, but
take a look at all the software you have installed on your machine and
call that cleaner with a straight face. If signing is done locally by
PMC's who very the build, in a yet to be determined fashion, what's
the real risk here?

I would very much like to have as little friction to releases for
Apache Camel as possible.

zoran

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:58 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> IMO, we wouldn't publish releases signed by buildbot without being also 
> signed by a PMC RM.  If there is a way to skip buildbot PGP signing that 
> would be even better.  And we don't have to build from clean if we have a way 
> to verify the binaries.  There are new efforts going on towards creating 
> reproducible binaries that allow for such verification.
>
> My suggestion is rather simple:
>
> 1) Find a way to skip signing before pushing to Nexus release staging or have 
> buildbot sign
> 2) Have a buildbot account that can push to Git and SVN
>
> If we can do that, the PMC's can take care of the rest.



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Zoran Regvart

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