On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Am Mittwoch 05 November 2008 21:38:09 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> > Could you please tell me what Gentoo GNU/Hurd is exactly? Is it
> > something similar to Debian GNU/Hurd, with the difference that it will
> > have portage, while Debian GNU/Hurd has apt?
>
> Gentoo GNU/Hurd was/is a try at creating a Hurd System which uses the
> Gentoo
> package manager (portage) instead of Debian.
>
> Gentoo is source-based and extremely configurable (and it's the system I've
> been using for almost 5 years, now).
>

I see. Thanks for information :-)

> Sorry if the questions look senseless, I'm just trying to figure out
> > what could be the goal of developing Gentoo GNU/Hurd.
>
> Gentoo folks tend to like dabbling with the more complex stuff - mainly the
> current purpose is tinkering, I think, but on the long run Gentoo offers
> the
> advantage of a very easy to maintain package repository built around
> "ebuilds", which are a kind of meta-build-scripts which contain
> dependencies,
> build instructions and similar.
>
> And since ebuilds are very easy to maintain, it's far easier to keep a
> system
> current with them.
>

Is there any advantage over Debian binary packages when using ebuilds?
Note that I have no special preferences with debs and I'm not sitting
on a Debian system. What I pursue with this question is whether a
Gentoo GNU/Hurd would be easier to maintain up-to-date with usual
Gentoo repositories and whether it would be possible to avoid
situations like we are in at the moment: some packages are broken and
a lot of stuff does not work (emacs, for example).

BTW, I once tried to build emacs from source on Hurd and the attempt
failed. I used to think that if I have the source code of a program
for Linux, not using some kernel interfaces, I could easily build it
on the Hurd, but it proved to be false...

Generally: If someone from the Gentoo community does a Gentoo GNU/Hurd,
> that's
> great (new contributors), but if someone would ask "should I develop a
> Gentoo
> GNU/Hurd or hack the Hurd itself", I'd currently say "hacking the Hurd
> seems
> to be priority at the moment to get the reference (debian) distribution
> usable
> for general desktop usage".
>

I see. Seems reasonable :-) Thanks for information :-)

Regards,
scolobb

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