Dan M wrote:
>> Not in school, and not in science class. In comparative religion,
>> maybe, but it's hard enough to teach good science without adding a
>> load of creation myths to the course. And that's the issue - "Both
>> sides"? No - because if they allow "both sides" they have to allow ALL
>> sides. That means Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Aboriginal... If you really
>> wanted to cover what EVERY religion says about creation, there
>> wouldn't be time for any science at all.
>>     
>
> I'm not sure if teaching "both sides" cannot be done in a course that
> teaches science.  It requires, though, a course on science itself, not on
> any particular science.
>
> But, that's not a bad thing.  In the US, we have bio, chem, physics, and
> general science or earth science as the options for 4 years of science.  A
> one year course on how science works, drawing from simple examples in
> biology, physics, cosmology, etc...including discussions of how theories are
> actually developed, changed, etc. would be worthwhile.
>   
The problem with teaching creationism in a science class is that it does 
not meet the minimum standard for scientific theory. A scientific theory 
needs to make testable, falsifiable claims, and has to pass when the 
test is done. That is absolutely fundamental, and I have never seen 
anything like that come from a creationist. They cannot distinguish 
between a theory and an hypothesis (what they call a theory is in fact 
an hypothesis), so I doubt they will ever get there.

BTW, anyone remember the classic Franken and Davis skit from SNL about 
this? Al Franken plays a "Pat Robertson" type and Davis plays a Native 
American shaman-type. They start off in agreement about the importance 
of religion, and how awful those secular types are, and then get into a 
huge disagreement about which one is the deluded one and which has the 
true religion.

BTW, Dan, you were at the convention as I recall. Any good stories?

Regards,

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