Dan M  wrote:

>
> The two clear views are these: morality, better, worse, etc. are based on
> axioms that are posited (i.e. taken on faith) or they are just tools of
> politics.
>
> Taken on faith from what?  The Bible?  The Koran?  A cereal box?  That
doesn't work at all for me, Dan.  For one thing it doesn't explain why
ethical values are constantly changing, not only within my own lifetime, but
from decade to decade ore even year to year not to mention from place to
place; from culture to culture.

I think Charlie's objection to the golden rule is spot on.  I might like my
back scratched, but it might be an offensive gesture in another culture or
even in my culture at a different time, so the do unto others thing just
doesn't work universally.

I love how you minimize (ridicule?) the second option by using "just" as if
one believes that they could find their ethics under a bush.  Its also
interesting how you use the word politics which has negative connotations.

Of course if I was to ask the question it would probably be something like;
do you think ethics are created by magic or do you believe that they are
cultural constructs?

Doug
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