On 18/05/2008, at 9:52 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 17 May 2008 at 11:12, a rude person who can't use quote wrote: > >>> andrew, there was a time when native americans were the majority > ethnic >>> group and white europeans were the minority, but genocide >>> eventually changed those statistics... > > Right. Remind me why that sets a good precident.
It doesn't, and that was Jon's point. > > >>> both debbie and pat were making the point that with education, >>> economic empowerment, and basic rights for women, population >>> reduction would follow. so blaming ignorant ethnic populations for >>> over breeding is rather bigoted, but then you admit you are >>> biased... > > Way to miss my point! There are some groups (and congats, you missed > my point - I'm talking about Europe's little issue) who don't, in the > large, participate in the culture of the nation they live in, and > indeed detest it. You're talking at cross-purposes, you know... And what you're talking about, Andrew, is self-ghetthoisation. Which is an issue with nearly every ethnic group moving abroad (even english- speakers moving to Cyprus, in my experience). Here in Oz, it's just as much a problem of Chinese, Korean and Viet-Namese as of Lebanese and Arab groups. >>> nevertheless, dark hair and eye color are dominant genetic >>> characteristics, so with rapid assimilation, us brown folks will >>> eventually replace most blue eyed blonds... > > Yup, and I have nothing against you (except personally, given you're > too rude to use quote). He's not too rude, as you'd know if you'd bothered to pay attention. He tries extremely hard, but he has trouble with understanding the way e-mail programs quote, and manually quotes every post. If just one of us lived nearby and could pop round and demonstrate stuff, jon would find life much easier. > You don't follow a mildly...oooh > fundermentalist creed where y'know, nobody else is remotely equal to > your people, and so on. What, like you (and your people?)? Way to project, dude. You know, nearly every religion and nationalist system does just that. Charlie (A bit Welsh, a bit English, both by adoption. Apparently my birth parents were Canadian. Raised CofE, spent many years wandering from church to church, now atheist. Lived in 3 countries for more than a year. Visited over 50 countries) _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
