In a message dated 8/17/2005 1:09:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
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> 
> I don't know and I don't really understand Bob's viewpoint - I wish he'd 
> clarify.  PNAC and the neoconservative movement look to me to be the 
> foundation of the current administration so when I hear the term Neocon, I 
> think of the President.  I don't even recall hearing the term until either 
> shortly before the 2000 election or even afterwards.

I am speaking a bit off the cuff but I believe that the neocon was statred by 
William Kristol (don't know if this is his first name) and Norman Poderatz. 
They were writers for I believe the "Nation"  but I could be wrong on the 
details. I am aware of this because their "defection" from the liberalmovement 
was 
big news (well ok little news) and got some press in the the New York Times. I 
still don't think that Bush and Channey  are neocons. I think they wanted to 
go after Sadaam and used the Neocon argruements.  


> >
> >In conclusion; while neo-con has been used as a much broader
> >category....the accusation that we are referring had its origin at a time
> >when the Jewishness of the neo-cons was part of the perceived problem.
> 
> It did?  When was the accusation dated?  What makes Sheehan's words (if 
> indeed she said what you have quoted) specifically reference the 
> historical Neocon movement and not the present administration?
> 
> Can I also ask what the source of the quote you posted was?
> 
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> 

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