In a message dated 8/16/2005 11:52:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Furthermore, isn't it not only possible but highly likely that the goals 
> of the Neocons are intended to be beneficial to both Israel _and_ the U.S.?

How about the US and Israel. But I don't think the goals of their movement is 
to help Israel. They see Israel as an example of what democracy in the middle 
east should look like. 



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