At 12:29 PM 12/18/2004 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
>> I'm not sure why you feel betrayed here.    In what way did you
>> specficially have your perceptions of Saddam Hussein's nuclear threat to
>> the United States changed from 2003 to 2004?
>
>To speak to time frame you asked about, I believed that Iraq had far 
>more capability to develop WMDs than I now believe they did.

O.k., I presume that you believed then and continue to believe now that
Baathist Iraq had the capability to mass produce chemical weapons.

I also presume that you believed then and continue to believe now that
Baathist Iraq had the capability to mass  produce anthrax, and possibly
other biological weapons.

I presume that you believed then that Baathist Iraq had the ability to
produce nuclear weapons in the near term.    Do you no longer believe that
Baathist Iraq had this ability?

>I believe that the administration manipulated intelligence, with only a 
>small possibility in my mind that it wasn't deliberate.  

What aspects of intelligence do you believe were manipulated?

And why do you believe that it is more likely that this intelligence was
manipulated deliberately, rather than misinterpreted by individuals who saw
the intelligence they were presented with as confirming what they already
believe - even *knew* - to be true?

>> This was a direct assault on the US's interests, our
>> economy, and our way of life.   
>
>I get the first one -- US interests.  I'm not so sure about the second 
>-- to me, attacking the economy would mean threatening the system, the 
>feedback loops and so forth that regulate markets.  Are you saying that 
>a threat to our goods and services is a threat to our economy?  If so, 
>how's that different from our interests?  Or are these two akin to 
>strategic interests and economic interests?
>
>The last one -- our way of life -- is something I've heard many times 
>over the last couple of years, but I really don't get it.  What does it 
>mean to you?

In this case, the threat to our interests and our economy was largely the
same.   This is not always true, however, so it included both.   I would
point out, that the US has interest in economic stability in Europe and
Japan, both of which rely more heavily on Middle Eastern oil than the US
economy.   This threat to our interests would only have threatened the US
economy in the second degree.

Additionally, it is in the US interests to preserve the existence of
Israel.   O.k. reasonable people may disagree on that point, but it was and
is US policy.    Having Saddam Hussein in control of a substantial portion
of the Middle East would be an indirect threat to Israel, by increasing
funding for Palestinian terrorists, as well as potentially a direct threat
in the future.

Lastly, the official US policy - until 2001 - was to maintain a "balance of
power" in the Middle East.   The arise of a regional hegemon in the Middle
East would be a threat to our interests.

As for a threat to our way of life, I mention this to specify that the
threat to our economy would not be not just the sort that produced a
recession, but potentially the sort that could cripple the US economy in
the short run.

>I can only see it as strategic to Iraq if their purpose was to pull the 
>West into the region in order to touch off a larger conflict.  If it was 
>to actually try to expand their borders, they were nuts, a possibility 
>that cannot be discounted!

Nuts?

If your man, John Kerry, had been President, the US wouldn't have even
attempted to stop him.

JDG

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