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From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom


>
> I wonder what the underlying dynamics of this trend are.
>
> First, I am always skeptical of arbitrary time series comparisons.   Have
> you tried adjusting your boundaries by a few years and seeing if the
trend
> holds?   Off the top of my head I know that 1980 was a relative peak for
> the economy ahead of a recession, and 2003 of course is in some was below
> the peaks of a few years earlier.   I don't recall the economic situation
> in 1957 off the top of my head.

Here's a time series that presents the 10 year increase in both the
civilian, non institutionalized population and the labor force. For
example, for 1957, the first number is

(non-institutionalized over 16 in 1957)/(non-institutionalized over 16 in
1947) -1

the second number is

(labor force in 1957)/(labor force in 1947)  -1

and the third number is

(employed in 1957)/(employed in 1947) -1


                      increase
                  over 10 years in
year              >16          labor force     employed
1957            10%            13%            12%
1958            10%            12%            8%
1959            11%            12%            12%
1960            12%            12%            12%
1961            14%            14%            10%
1962            14%            14%            11%
1963            14%            14%            11%
1964            15%            15%            15%
1965            15%            15%            14%
1966            15%            14%            14%
1967            16%            16%            16%
1968            16%            16%            20%
1969            16%            18%            21%
1970            17%            19%            20%
1971            18%            20%            21%
1972            20%            23%            23%
1973            20%            24%            26%
1974            21%            26%            25%
1975            21%            26%            21%
1976            22%            27%            22%
1977            22%            28%            24%
1978            23%            30%            27%
1979            23%            30%            27%
1980            22%            29%            26%
1981            21%            29%            26%
1982            20%            27%            21%
1983            18%            25%            19%
1984            17%            23%            21%
1985            16%            23%            25%
1986            16%            23%            23%
1987            15%            21%            22%
1988            14%            19%            20%
1989            13%            18%            19%
1990            13%            18%            20%
1991            12%            16%            17%
1992            12%            16%            19%
1993            12%            16%            19%
1994            12%            15%            17%
1995            11%            15%            17%
1996            11%            14%            16%
1997            11%            14%            15%
1998            11%            13%            14%
1999            11%            13%            14%
2000            12%            13%            15%
2001            13%            14%            16%
2002            13%            13%            15%
2003            14%            13%            15%


I started the series with '57, because the data I used started in '47.
You can pick your intervals, but I don't see any drastic jumps...the trends
seem to go smoothly.  Granted, data must be 10 years apart to be
independent, but moving a few years allows us to see if any one or two
years dominates.

If you want additional analysis, just yell.  Sorry there's no graph for the
visual folks.

Dan M.


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