----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom
> Michael Harney wrote: > > > > >Job shifts... Do you see any programs to support and retrain the workers > >that were displaced so that they can perform a new job and still make a good > >living? I sure as f##k don't. > > > Thankyou Michael for the profanity - big help from someone who has made > such demands about the way we treat him onlist in the past... > Now that I've dragged the email from the cybercellar it was consigned > to, and removed it's entry in the logs (I can't imagine NOT being the > network administrator...) > Not that Michael is listening any more, because he doesn't like > dissenting opinions, but I question this. > This is standard practice in Australia during retrenchments and the like > - tons of money gets thrown at these programs. (Not always successful - > we now have thousands of MCSEs who can't use a command prompt and MBAs > who can't read a bank statement, but the effort is made to give these > people every chance). > I see that IBM is doing something: > http://news.com.com/2100-1011-5167506.html?part=dht&tag=ntop > > Surely there are programs like this throughout the US? Not many, not really. During bad recessions some token money gets thrown at it; but a good severance package is a weeks pay per year of service, the opportunity to keep one's health insurance at the total cost to the company + a 5% service charge, and a payout on any unused vacation. Outplacement usually ranges from nothing, to a 2 day seminar in which you attend classes with 20 others on getting your resume together, job hunting techniques, etc. I was lucky that I was as senior as technical people could get and had almost 20 years of service when I was outsized. I was able to get the executive package, which included 6 months of outplacement. This included weekly meetings with other job seekers, the ability to use their offices and resources, and some coaching. I think I met with my coaches a total of 8 hours over the whole experience....and I was one of the lucky ones. The US tends to have outplacement as sink or swim. Training for new jobs is rare and is mostly window dressing AFAIK. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
