LGTM2

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 8:07 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> wrote:

> LGTM1. Please update the TAG thread with the spec changes for posterity
> On Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 7:18:44 PM UTC-4 ev...@google.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The spec changes have been merged and are live!
>> https://webaudio.github.io/web-speech-api/
>>
>> I believe this should be ready for Blink owners to take another look.
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Evan
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 10:33 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! We discussed this at the Audio Working Group and reached a consensus
>>> :) I have a PR out to update the spec
>>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/pull/157> and another one
>>> to update the explainer
>>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/pull/159> with the changes.
>>> I believe this should cover the remaining issues.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any conclusions from the WG meeting?
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 8:11:49 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would definitely be better to make this change before the feature
>>>>> ships, but it's up to y'all Blink owners if you think this should be a
>>>>> blocker for this intent. The Audio Working Group is meeting tomorrow
>>>>> morning so hopefully we'll be able to reach a consensus then!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>>>>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 8:50:12 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the thorough review! I've opened a GitHub issue
>>>>>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/issues/156> for the
>>>>>> remaining request. Hopefully we'll settle on an option before the next
>>>>>> Audio Working Group meeting on 5/15! I'll update the spec as soon as we 
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this issue a blocker for this intent, or is it an option that can
>>>>>> be added in a backwards compatible way later on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:10 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Evan and Jeff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evan: if we can get to API symmetry, I think that will help
>>>>>> considerably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evan/Jeff: this seems like good advice from the TAG. When do we think
>>>>>> we can get the bikeshed repain...er...develop updated names?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:12:29 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, the TAG finished our review with https://github.com/
>>>>>> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2853142041. We were
>>>>>> generally happy with the design decisions that Evan and the WG have made,
>>>>>> but we were still concerned that "ondevice-only" excludes some choices 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> future UAs might reasonably want to explore. We listed 5 kinds of 
>>>>>> locations
>>>>>> that a user might want to run speech recognition (or heavy workloads in
>>>>>> general), and we thought the WG should look at the concrete websites that
>>>>>> want to adopt this, figure out which locations they're ok with, and pick 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> name based on that. We didn't think Google Meet's described use case
>>>>>> for "ondevice-only"
>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2837046998>
>>>>>>  was
>>>>>> even about recognition location, but it might also indicate a feature the
>>>>>> WG might want to add.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:31 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We discussed the TAG feedback at the Audio Working Group meeting
>>>>>> yesterday and I've posted our response here: https://github.com/
>>>>>> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2815982645
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there's any particular reason to unprefix before
>>>>>> shipping on-device, is there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also to answer your question, Rick, I don't think there's any reason
>>>>>> to unprefix before shipping on-device, so we might as well lump it 
>>>>>> together
>>>>>> as a bundle :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian Kardell <bkard...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just linking this up as I see there are some questions, but the
>>>>>> opening post seems to suggest there are positive signals from WebKit...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/443
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Rick Byers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 PM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the detailed feedback, Jeffrey! We'll discuss this at the
>>>>>> Audio Working Group meeting this week and I'll update this thread
>>>>>> afterwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:08 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, the TAG left comments at https://github.com/w3ctag/
>>>>>> design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2803693504.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:22 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by
>>>>>> branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes before May 21)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds like a reasonable target, assuming TAG doesn't propose
>>>>>> any significant changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, if you want to, I'm supportive of shipping the unprefixing
>>>>>> alone
>>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6422562> now,
>>>>>> since you already proved to us that the unprefixed API is not an
>>>>>> opportunity to make any breaking API changes. Do you prefer to decouple
>>>>>> that, or just wait and get the whole bundle approved to ship together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either is fine with me! Would decoupling just be a matter of making
>>>>>> the changes, or would I need to create a separate Chrome Status entry, 
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> position statements, all of the approvals, etc.? If it's the former, we
>>>>>> might as well make the change now. Otherwise it might just be easier to
>>>>>> bundle everything together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm OK with just shipping the unprefixing under this same intent
>>>>>> without the extra paperwork, but also it's a bit simpler if we just keep 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> all lumped together as a bundle. I don't think there's any particular
>>>>>> reason to unprefix before shipping on-device, is there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:51 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all looks great to me! Are you thinking it might be reasonable
>>>>>> to ship in M128 (decide by branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required
>>>>>> changes before May 21)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Off by one, classic. I think you meant 1*3*8 here. I know it's
>>>>>> obvious now, but someone might once look back at this in ten years from 
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> and wonder…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoops, yes of course - thank you :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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