On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 8:50:12 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks for the thorough review! I've opened a GitHub issue 
<https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/issues/156> for the remaining 
request. Hopefully we'll settle on an option before the next Audio Working 
Group meeting on 5/15! I'll update the spec as soon as we do.


Is this issue a blocker for this intent, or is it an option that can be 
added in a backwards compatible way later on?
 


Thanks,
Evan


On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:10 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> 
wrote:

Thanks Evan and Jeff.

Evan: if we can get to API symmetry, I think that will help considerably.

Evan/Jeff: this seems like good advice from the TAG. When do we think we 
can get the bikeshed repain...er...develop updated names?

Best,

Alex

On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:12:29 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:

FYI, the TAG finished our review with https://github.com/
w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2853142041. We were 
generally happy with the design decisions that Evan and the WG have made, 
but we were still concerned that "ondevice-only" excludes some choices that 
future UAs might reasonably want to explore. We listed 5 kinds of locations 
that a user might want to run speech recognition (or heavy workloads in 
general), and we thought the WG should look at the concrete websites that 
want to adopt this, figure out which locations they're ok with, and pick a 
name based on that. We didn't think Google Meet's described use case for 
"ondevice-only" 
<https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2837046998> 
was 
even about recognition location, but it might also indicate a feature the 
WG might want to add.

Jeffrey

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:31 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:

Hi all,

We discussed the TAG feedback at the Audio Working Group meeting yesterday 
and I've posted our response here: https://github.com/
w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2815982645

Please let me know if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns.

I don't think there's any particular reason to unprefix before shipping 
on-device, is there?

Also to answer your question, Rick, I don't think there's any reason to 
unprefix before shipping on-device, so we might as well lump it together as 
a bundle :).

Thanks!
Evan

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian Kardell <bkard...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just linking this up as I see there are some questions, but the opening 
post seems to suggest there are positive signals from WebKit... 

https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/443

On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Rick Byers wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 PM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:

Thanks for the detailed feedback, Jeffrey! We'll discuss this at the Audio 
Working Group meeting this week and I'll update this thread afterwards.

Thanks,
Evan

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:08 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org> 
wrote:

FYI, the TAG left comments at https://github.com/w3ctag/
design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2803693504.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:22 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:

 Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by branch 
on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes before May 21)?

That sounds like a reasonable target, assuming TAG doesn't propose any 
significant changes.

That said, if you want to, I'm supportive of shipping the unprefixing alone 
<https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6422562> now, 
since you already proved to us that the unprefixed API is not an 
opportunity to make any breaking API changes. Do you prefer to decouple 
that, or just wait and get the whole bundle approved to ship together?

Either is fine with me! Would decoupling just be a matter of making the 
changes, or would I need to create a separate Chrome Status entry, get 
position statements, all of the approvals, etc.? If it's the former, we 
might as well make the change now. Otherwise it might just be easier to 
bundle everything together. 


I'm OK with just shipping the unprefixing under this same intent without 
the extra paperwork, but also it's a bit simpler if we just keep it all 
lumped together as a bundle. I don't think there's any particular reason to 
unprefix before shipping on-device, is there?
 


Thanks,
Evan

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:51 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com> wrote:

This all looks great to me! Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship 
in M128 (decide by branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes 
before May 21)?


Off by one, classic. I think you meant 1*3*8 here. I know it's obvious now, 
but someone might once look back at this in ten years from now and wonder…


Whoops, yes of course - thank you :-).
 

 

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