LGTM1. Please update the TAG thread with the spec changes for posterity
On Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 7:18:44 PM UTC-4 ev...@google.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The spec changes have been merged and are live! 
> https://webaudio.github.io/web-speech-api/
>
> I believe this should be ready for Blink owners to take another look. 
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 10:33 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi! We discussed this at the Audio Working Group and reached a consensus 
>> :) I have a PR out to update the spec 
>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/pull/157> and another one to 
>> update the explainer 
>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/pull/159> with the changes. 
>> I believe this should cover the remaining issues.
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Any conclusions from the WG meeting?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 8:11:49 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would definitely be better to make this change before the feature 
>>>> ships, but it's up to y'all Blink owners if you think this should be a 
>>>> blocker for this intent. The Audio Working Group is meeting tomorrow 
>>>> morning so hopefully we'll be able to reach a consensus then!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>>>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 8:50:12 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the thorough review! I've opened a GitHub issue 
>>>>> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/issues/156> for the 
>>>>> remaining request. Hopefully we'll settle on an option before the next 
>>>>> Audio Working Group meeting on 5/15! I'll update the spec as soon as we 
>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this issue a blocker for this intent, or is it an option that can 
>>>>> be added in a backwards compatible way later on?
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:10 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Evan and Jeff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan: if we can get to API symmetry, I think that will help 
>>>>> considerably.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan/Jeff: this seems like good advice from the TAG. When do we think 
>>>>> we can get the bikeshed repain...er...develop updated names?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:12:29 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, the TAG finished our review with https://github.com/
>>>>> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2853142041. We were 
>>>>> generally happy with the design decisions that Evan and the WG have made, 
>>>>> but we were still concerned that "ondevice-only" excludes some choices 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> future UAs might reasonably want to explore. We listed 5 kinds of 
>>>>> locations 
>>>>> that a user might want to run speech recognition (or heavy workloads in 
>>>>> general), and we thought the WG should look at the concrete websites that 
>>>>> want to adopt this, figure out which locations they're ok with, and pick 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> name based on that. We didn't think Google Meet's described use case 
>>>>> for "ondevice-only" 
>>>>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2837046998>
>>>>>  was 
>>>>> even about recognition location, but it might also indicate a feature the 
>>>>> WG might want to add.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:31 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We discussed the TAG feedback at the Audio Working Group meeting 
>>>>> yesterday and I've posted our response here: https://github.com/
>>>>> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2815982645
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there's any particular reason to unprefix before 
>>>>> shipping on-device, is there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also to answer your question, Rick, I don't think there's any reason 
>>>>> to unprefix before shipping on-device, so we might as well lump it 
>>>>> together 
>>>>> as a bundle :).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian Kardell <bkard...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just linking this up as I see there are some questions, but the 
>>>>> opening post seems to suggest there are positive signals from WebKit... 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/443
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Rick Byers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 PM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the detailed feedback, Jeffrey! We'll discuss this at the 
>>>>> Audio Working Group meeting this week and I'll update this thread 
>>>>> afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:08 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, the TAG left comments at https://github.com/w3ctag/
>>>>> design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2803693504.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:22 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by 
>>>>> branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes before May 21)?
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like a reasonable target, assuming TAG doesn't propose any 
>>>>> significant changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, if you want to, I'm supportive of shipping the unprefixing 
>>>>> alone 
>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6422562> now, 
>>>>> since you already proved to us that the unprefixed API is not an 
>>>>> opportunity to make any breaking API changes. Do you prefer to decouple 
>>>>> that, or just wait and get the whole bundle approved to ship together?
>>>>>
>>>>> Either is fine with me! Would decoupling just be a matter of making 
>>>>> the changes, or would I need to create a separate Chrome Status entry, 
>>>>> get 
>>>>> position statements, all of the approvals, etc.? If it's the former, we 
>>>>> might as well make the change now. Otherwise it might just be easier to 
>>>>> bundle everything together. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm OK with just shipping the unprefixing under this same intent 
>>>>> without the extra paperwork, but also it's a bit simpler if we just keep 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> all lumped together as a bundle. I don't think there's any particular 
>>>>> reason to unprefix before shipping on-device, is there?
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:51 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This all looks great to me! Are you thinking it might be reasonable to 
>>>>> ship in M128 (decide by branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required 
>>>>> changes before May 21)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Off by one, classic. I think you meant 1*3*8 here. I know it's 
>>>>> obvious now, but someone might once look back at this in ten years from 
>>>>> now 
>>>>> and wonder…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoops, yes of course - thank you :-).
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>

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