A piece of email, even if malformed, should *never* crash an email client. If it does, consider the client to be buggy, and find a better one.
When you get right down to it, your problem has nothing to do with this mailing list. Dan > Good points, but why do just *some* of the e-mails crash it; and then only > with this particular e-mail account? My "beginners-perl..." e-mail address > is an alias in a pool of aliases under one master account. I receive many > e-mails daily in most of those other aliases with no problem. I also don't > have problems with the other "master accounts" and any of their aliases > under this ISP. Somebody would have to give me a deeper techie reason for > this behavior before I could go along with your suggestion. > > My mail client is a constant, the other e-mail accounts are a constant, and > no other e-mails I get from any account or ISP cause this behavior. The only > changing thing, that I can see, is that some beginners-perl incoming > messages cause my system to do the "choke-gag-barf-die" routine. > > > John-- > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mat Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:14 PM > To: John > Cc: Perl Beginners > Subject: Re: Possible technical problems w/ e-mail from this group > > > i would be more inclined to believe that your os and mail client is at > fault. no-one else on the list (to my knowledge) has had these sort of > problems. > > also, if the mail client crashes because of the content of the email > while it is still downloading, then get rid of the client because it is > very unsafe > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0400, John wrote: > > All, > > > > I'm submitting this to the group looking for useful feedback. I have been > > getting e-mails "stuck" during downloads from beginners-perl list, of > late. > > When my e-mail client, Outlook 98, sees the offending e-mail, it crashes. > I > > have to do a re-boot to recover control of my system and then place a call > > to my ISP to have the particular e-mail deteted from the stream. Each time > > the bad e-mail has been deleted, the rest of the stream from the > > beginners-perl list comes through without a problem. I have not had this > > problem with any of my various other e-mail accounts nor with any of my > > ISPs -- only with the beginners-perl list as it applies to e-mail. > > > > I don't know who sent today's sticky e-mail, but the last two were from: > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED] and from: "Bob Showalter > > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]". Now, at least Bob is an on-going, > > long-time contributor to the list and I've never had problems like this > > before with any of his particular contributions (and I'd find it difficult > > to believe he'd be sending out buggy e-mail <g>). In each case, however, > the > > "stuck" e-mail was one from the Beginners-Perl list. > > > > Since each occurance has happened with a different contributor, but was > > channeled throught the same list at perl.org, and I've not experienced any > > problems like this with any other e-mail account I have, nor with any > other > > ISP on which I have e-mail accounts...I'm starting to see a pattern. A > first > > guess would be some sort of corrupt header, but that's just a guess. None > of > > the bad e-mails were particularily long according to my ISP tech support. > > > > I've copied below two messages I've sent off to Casey West asking if he's > > seen this problem before and asking for his input. I've had no response as > > of yet, however. I thought I'd broaden the queury to include the rest of > the > > group. > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts? I'd hate to have to resign from the group > and > > do the web search alternative, but the problem is getting to be more than > > just a tad annoying. > > > > Thanks for any input you can offer. > > > > > > John-- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > > > ============================================================================ > > ==== > > > > From: HelpBizOwners.com [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:27 PM > > To: casey PerlGuy > > Subject: FYI: Possible corrupt e-mail headers > > > > Casey, > > > > I have been having occasional problems downloading e-mail from the Perl > > lists (Beginners and/or CGI). We (my ISP and I) have managed to trace the > > problem back to incoming e-mails from the Perl list. I use many e-mail > > accounts from several ISPs, but this is the only one which exhibits > > problems. > > > > It doesn't happen often, but when it does my computer goes into the > classic > > "choke-gag-barf-die" routine. > > > > Its not a pretty sight. <g> > > > > Each time, the fix has been to have the ISP delete the offending incoming > > e-mail from the stream. After deletion, the rest -- if any -- of the Perl > > list e-mails come through without problems. A guess at the cause of the > > problem would be a possible corrupt e-mail header -- but its only a guess, > > on my part. > > > > I don't have total proof that the problem is even happening at the Perl > List > > server. It could be from a particular sender -- this last was from Bob > > Showalter, a frequent contributor, whose e-mailed input is always useful. > I > > can't identity previous senders, however. > > > > So, as an FYI, I don't know if others have reported similar problems or > even > > if the problem is really in your court, but the above problem is the > > technical burr under my saddle, right now. Any insights from your end > would > > be gratefully appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > John-- > > > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > ============= > > > > From: John [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:24 PM > > To: casey PerlGuy > > Subject: Another corrupt e-mail header > > > > Casey, > > > > I have just received another e-mail from the Beginners Perl list with a > > corrupted header. (Please see original e-mail on this topic below.) I had > to > > have my ISP delete the e-mail to relieve the clog in the system. > > > > The last time the e-mail was from Bob Showalter. This time the e-mail was > > listed as being from "Eric...." (don't have more info than that). As these > > were from two separate senders, it starts to lead me to believe that the > > corruption may be happening on the onion.perl.org list server. > > > > Is there anything you can do about this (assuming it is even in your > > balliwick)? > > > > Thanks. > > > > John-- > > > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Mat Harris OpenGPG Public Key ID: CC14DD34 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] matthewh.genestate.com > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
