Matt, Good points, but why do just *some* of the e-mails crash it; and then only with this particular e-mail account? My "beginners-perl..." e-mail address is an alias in a pool of aliases under one master account. I receive many e-mails daily in most of those other aliases with no problem. I also don't have problems with the other "master accounts" and any of their aliases under this ISP. Somebody would have to give me a deeper techie reason for this behavior before I could go along with your suggestion.
My mail client is a constant, the other e-mail accounts are a constant, and no other e-mails I get from any account or ISP cause this behavior. The only changing thing, that I can see, is that some beginners-perl incoming messages cause my system to do the "choke-gag-barf-die" routine. John-- Vice President / Chief Technical Officer Small Business Help Center, Inc. http://www.helpbizowners.com -----Original Message----- From: Mat Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:14 PM To: John Cc: Perl Beginners Subject: Re: Possible technical problems w/ e-mail from this group i would be more inclined to believe that your os and mail client is at fault. no-one else on the list (to my knowledge) has had these sort of problems. also, if the mail client crashes because of the content of the email while it is still downloading, then get rid of the client because it is very unsafe On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0400, John wrote: > All, > > I'm submitting this to the group looking for useful feedback. I have been > getting e-mails "stuck" during downloads from beginners-perl list, of late. > When my e-mail client, Outlook 98, sees the offending e-mail, it crashes. I > have to do a re-boot to recover control of my system and then place a call > to my ISP to have the particular e-mail deteted from the stream. Each time > the bad e-mail has been deleted, the rest of the stream from the > beginners-perl list comes through without a problem. I have not had this > problem with any of my various other e-mail accounts nor with any of my > ISPs -- only with the beginners-perl list as it applies to e-mail. > > I don't know who sent today's sticky e-mail, but the last two were from: > "[EMAIL PROTECTED] and from: "Bob Showalter > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]". Now, at least Bob is an on-going, > long-time contributor to the list and I've never had problems like this > before with any of his particular contributions (and I'd find it difficult > to believe he'd be sending out buggy e-mail <g>). In each case, however, the > "stuck" e-mail was one from the Beginners-Perl list. > > Since each occurance has happened with a different contributor, but was > channeled throught the same list at perl.org, and I've not experienced any > problems like this with any other e-mail account I have, nor with any other > ISP on which I have e-mail accounts...I'm starting to see a pattern. A first > guess would be some sort of corrupt header, but that's just a guess. None of > the bad e-mails were particularily long according to my ISP tech support. > > I've copied below two messages I've sent off to Casey West asking if he's > seen this problem before and asking for his input. I've had no response as > of yet, however. I thought I'd broaden the queury to include the rest of the > group. > > Does anyone have any thoughts? I'd hate to have to resign from the group and > do the web search alternative, but the problem is getting to be more than > just a tad annoying. > > Thanks for any input you can offer. > > > John-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > ============================================================================ > ==== > > From: HelpBizOwners.com [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:27 PM > To: casey PerlGuy > Subject: FYI: Possible corrupt e-mail headers > > Casey, > > I have been having occasional problems downloading e-mail from the Perl > lists (Beginners and/or CGI). We (my ISP and I) have managed to trace the > problem back to incoming e-mails from the Perl list. I use many e-mail > accounts from several ISPs, but this is the only one which exhibits > problems. > > It doesn't happen often, but when it does my computer goes into the classic > "choke-gag-barf-die" routine. > > Its not a pretty sight. <g> > > Each time, the fix has been to have the ISP delete the offending incoming > e-mail from the stream. After deletion, the rest -- if any -- of the Perl > list e-mails come through without problems. A guess at the cause of the > problem would be a possible corrupt e-mail header -- but its only a guess, > on my part. > > I don't have total proof that the problem is even happening at the Perl List > server. It could be from a particular sender -- this last was from Bob > Showalter, a frequent contributor, whose e-mailed input is always useful. I > can't identity previous senders, however. > > So, as an FYI, I don't know if others have reported similar problems or even > if the problem is really in your court, but the above problem is the > technical burr under my saddle, right now. Any insights from your end would > be gratefully appreciated. > > Thanks. > > John-- > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > ============================================================================ > ============= > > From: John [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:24 PM > To: casey PerlGuy > Subject: Another corrupt e-mail header > > Casey, > > I have just received another e-mail from the Beginners Perl list with a > corrupted header. (Please see original e-mail on this topic below.) I had to > have my ISP delete the e-mail to relieve the clog in the system. > > The last time the e-mail was from Bob Showalter. This time the e-mail was > listed as being from "Eric...." (don't have more info than that). As these > were from two separate senders, it starts to lead me to believe that the > corruption may be happening on the onion.perl.org list server. > > Is there anything you can do about this (assuming it is even in your > balliwick)? > > Thanks. > > John-- > > Vice President / Chief Technical Officer > Small Business Help Center, Inc. > http://www.helpbizowners.com > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mat Harris OpenGPG Public Key ID: CC14DD34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] matthewh.genestate.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
