All,

I'm submitting this to the group looking for useful feedback. I have been
getting e-mails "stuck" during downloads from beginners-perl list, of late.
When my e-mail client, Outlook 98, sees the offending e-mail, it crashes. I
have to do a re-boot to recover control of my system and then place a call
to my ISP to have the particular e-mail deteted from the stream. Each time
the bad e-mail has been deleted, the rest of the stream from the
beginners-perl list comes through without a problem. I have not had this
problem with any of my various other e-mail accounts nor with any of my
ISPs -- only with the beginners-perl list as it applies to e-mail.

I don't know who sent today's sticky e-mail, but the last two were from:
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] and from: "Bob Showalter
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]". Now, at least Bob is an on-going,
long-time contributor to the list and I've never had problems like this
before with any of his particular contributions (and I'd find it difficult
to believe he'd be sending out buggy e-mail <g>). In each case, however, the
"stuck" e-mail was one from the Beginners-Perl list.

Since each occurance has happened with a different contributor, but was
channeled throught the same list at perl.org, and I've not experienced any
problems like this with any other e-mail account I have, nor with any other
ISP on which I have e-mail accounts...I'm starting to see a pattern. A first
guess would be some sort of corrupt header, but that's just a guess. None of
the bad e-mails were particularily long according to my ISP tech support.

I've copied below two messages I've sent off to Casey West asking if he's
seen this problem before and asking for his input. I've had no response as
of yet, however. I thought I'd broaden the queury to include the rest of the
group.

Does anyone have any thoughts? I'd hate to have to resign from the group and
do the web search alternative, but the problem is getting to be more than
just a tad annoying.

Thanks for any input you can offer.


John--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vice President / Chief Technical Officer
Small Business Help Center, Inc.
http://www.helpbizowners.com

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From:   HelpBizOwners.com [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:27 PM
To:     casey PerlGuy
Subject:        FYI: Possible corrupt e-mail headers

Casey,

I have been having occasional problems downloading e-mail from the Perl
lists (Beginners and/or CGI). We (my ISP and I) have managed to trace the
problem back to incoming e-mails from the Perl list. I use many e-mail
accounts from several ISPs, but this is the only one which exhibits
problems.

It doesn't happen often, but when it does my computer goes into the classic
"choke-gag-barf-die" routine.

Its not a pretty sight. <g>

Each time, the fix has been to have the ISP delete the offending incoming
e-mail from the stream. After deletion, the rest -- if any -- of the Perl
list e-mails come through without problems. A guess at the cause of the
problem would be a possible corrupt e-mail header -- but its only a guess,
on my part.

I don't have total proof that the problem is even happening at the Perl List
server. It could be from a particular sender -- this last was from Bob
Showalter, a frequent contributor, whose e-mailed input is always useful. I
can't identity previous senders, however.

So, as an FYI, I don't know if others have reported similar problems or even
if the problem is really in your court, but the above problem is the
technical burr under my saddle, right now. Any insights from your end would
be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks.

John--

Vice President / Chief Technical Officer
Small Business Help Center, Inc.
http://www.helpbizowners.com


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From:   John [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:24 PM
To:     casey PerlGuy
Subject:        Another corrupt e-mail header

Casey,

I have just received another e-mail from the Beginners Perl list with a
corrupted header. (Please see original e-mail on this topic below.) I had to
have my ISP delete the e-mail to relieve the clog in the system.

The last time the e-mail was from Bob Showalter. This time the e-mail was
listed as being from "Eric...." (don't have more info than that). As these
were from two separate senders, it starts to lead me to believe that the
corruption may be happening on the onion.perl.org list server.

Is there anything you can do about this (assuming it is even in your
balliwick)?

Thanks.

John--

Vice President / Chief Technical Officer
Small Business Help Center, Inc.
http://www.helpbizowners.com



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