|
On 10/02/2016 09:08 AM, Hankins,
Jonathan wrote:
I'll have to dig a bit, but I
know the package source in Mint 18 is unmodified from Ubuntu
xenial, and I didn't see any indication that it was different
than what's in debian.
I think what may be happening is,
Ubuntu xenial (a LTS release IIRC) tracks something newer than
debian stable (maybe testing?) It has 7.0.5. Debian stable is
still on 5.x, with an older rules file that probably doesn't
have the linker flag that's causing trouble. Debian unstable,
and newer Ubuntu have 7.4.3 or 7.4.4, where Kern has worked
around the issue. I think people using the director are more
likely to be doing so on Debian and thus are getting the 5.x
code without the linker flag. Likewise, people's on the newest
Ubuntu probably have something >= 7.4.3, where it's worked
around. So I think only people on the Ubuntu LTS release
(xenial) or Mint 18 (brand new, but based on xenial) are getting
hit with it, and like Kern said, it may only manifest if certain
defaults are in use.
Yes, it is my understanding that Ubuntu (at least the Bacula
packager) is way ahead of Debian.
Even though it's fixed in the 7.4.x
from Ubuntu (probably in debian too), if it's indeed broken in
debian, I'm going to ask if they can release an update to their
7.0.5 package in testing, so that people who track that, or
distros that are derived from it, don't get a broken bacula out
of the box.
Yes, please do so. Thanks.
I think compiler optimizations and
linker tweaks that change the fundamental functioning of your
code aren't great things to turn on by default :-/ It's hard
enough to develop and maintain software without your tools
fighting against you!
I don't have a big problem with compiler optimizations and linker
tweaks if packagers want to make them -- often they have "packaging
rules" that require those items. However, where I am not happy for
the Bacula users is when packagers don't even test one execution and
so they change things, break them, and then make a bad release. It
shouldn't work that way.
To help resolve this problem, the Bacula project will shortly be
releasing binaries for as many common distros as we can handle, and
we do test our binaries :-)
Best regards,
Kern
-Jonathan Hankins
I have not heard of this on Debian, but it is a
problem on Ubuntu and in their bugzilla database. I
suspect that even though Ubuntu takes a number of Debian
packages, they probably add some different linking
options.
On 10/02/2016 01:41 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
On 01.10.2016 16:51, Hankins, Jonathan wrote:
It seems weird that the bacula package in Debian and Ubuntu, et al, is
broken and no one has noticed (checked Debian bug database). I know
Debian has been on 5.x in the stable release for years (still is). It's
possible that 7.0.5 got packaged for their testing release and maybe
Ubuntu xenial picked it up and thus Mint 18. My guess is most folks
using bacula on a Debian distro are on Debian stable, and not Ubuntu or
mint (workstation oriented releases...if anything, may be using
bacula-fd) and thus no one has noticed. I'll do a little digging and
talk to the person who packages bacula for Debian and see if I figure it
out.
I don't know about Bacula being broken on Debian.
I've been using Bacula at work on Debian since version 1.34 back in 2004
and had it never not work. Right now I am up to 7.4.3 on Jessie from
backports, running backups for about 250 systems.
Privately I run in Debian Unstable, backuping 10 systems to disk and
tape. Again, never experienced the problems you have.
If Bacula was unusable and broken on Debian, there would be bug reports
in the BTS.
Grüße,
Sven.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
_______________________________________________
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's
most
engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
This e-mail is intended only for the recipient and may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, the review, distribution, duplication or retention of this message and its attachments is prohibited. Please notify the sender of this error immediately by reply e-mail, and permanently delete this message and its attachments in any form in which they may have been preserved.
|
