I'll have to dig a bit, but I know the package source in Mint 18 is
unmodified from Ubuntu xenial, and I didn't see any indication that it was
different than what's in debian.
I think what may be happening is, Ubuntu xenial (a LTS release IIRC) tracks
something newer than debian stable (maybe testing?) It has 7.0.5. Debian
stable is still on 5.x, with an older rules file that probably doesn't have
the linker flag that's causing trouble. Debian unstable, and newer Ubuntu
have 7.4.3 or 7.4.4, where Kern has worked around the issue. I think people
using the director are more likely to be doing so on Debian and thus are
getting the 5.x code without the linker flag. Likewise, people's on the
newest Ubuntu probably have something >= 7.4.3, where it's worked around.
So I think only people on the Ubuntu LTS release (xenial) or Mint 18 (brand
new, but based on xenial) are getting hit with it, and like Kern said, it
may only manifest if certain defaults are in use.
Even though it's fixed in the 7.4.x from Ubuntu (probably in debian too),
if it's indeed broken in debian, I'm going to ask if they can release an
update to their 7.0.5 package in testing, so that people who track that, or
distros that are derived from it, don't get a broken bacula out of the box.
I think compiler optimizations and linker tweaks that change the
fundamental functioning of your code aren't great things to turn on by
default :-/ It's hard enough to develop and maintain software without your
tools fighting against you!
-Jonathan Hankins
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016, 12:45 AM Kern Sibbald <k...@sibbald.com> wrote:
I have not heard of this on Debian, but it is a problem on Ubuntu and in
their bugzilla database. I suspect that even though Ubuntu takes a number
of Debian packages, they probably add some different linking options.
On 10/02/2016 01:41 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
On 01.10.2016 16:51, Hankins, Jonathan wrote:
It seems weird that the bacula package in Debian and Ubuntu, et al, is
broken and no one has noticed (checked Debian bug database). I know
Debian has been on 5.x in the stable release for years (still is). It's
possible that 7.0.5 got packaged for their testing release and maybe
Ubuntu xenial picked it up and thus Mint 18. My guess is most folks
using bacula on a Debian distro are on Debian stable, and not Ubuntu or
mint (workstation oriented releases...if anything, may be using
bacula-fd) and thus no one has noticed. I'll do a little digging and
talk to the person who packages bacula for Debian and see if I figure it
out.
I don't know about Bacula being broken on Debian.
I've been using Bacula at work on Debian since version 1.34 back in 2004
and had it never not work. Right now I am up to 7.4.3 on Jessie from
backports, running backups for about 250 systems.
Privately I run in Debian Unstable, backuping 10 systems to disk and
tape. Again, never experienced the problems you have.
If Bacula was unusable and broken on Debian, there would be bug reports
in the BTS.
Grüße,
Sven.
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