Ian, Do you think my proposal in the previous message could address those issues? I think it would but I'm no expert...
Eylem On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because the window controls should have gone in the corner, and the > Usability testing did show that people were clicking on the top icon in the > launcher to try and open the dash. > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:34, Eylem Koca <eylemk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> OK, sorry, I got it wrong it seems. But then, why oh why did the >> Ubuntu button have to leave the top left corner? If it did not look >> like a button, then make it like a button, not displace it. The OP >> includes a very good mockup for example: >> http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton >> >> I really really think that moving the Ubuntu button out of the >> very-top-left-corner is a huge mistake. >> >> If you really have to place the window control buttons to the >> very-top-left-corner, then I have a proposal. This just popped into my >> mind, and goes like this: >> >> - Make the Launcher cover the whole left edge, going over the top >> panel at the top left corner. The Ubuntu button (whatever the design) >> is at the top of the Launcher. >> - When the cursor is not directed to the top panel, the Launcher shows >> or hides according to normal behavior (dodge, autohide, etc). >> - If the Launcher is showing, the window controls on the left of the >> top panel are hidden, the active-app name (and title?) is displayed on >> the top panel (starting from where the window controls would end) and >> the appmenu is hidden. >> --- While the Launcher is showing, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE TOP PANEL >> BEFORE IT HITS THE LAUNCHER, then the Launcher hides, the window >> controls and the appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user >> can interact. >> --- While the Launcher is showing, the user can activate Dash by >> either clicking on the Ubuntu button or by pushing the cursor to top >> left corner (second part should be a user configurable option). >> - If the Launcher is somehow hidden, and the cursor is NOT on the top >> panel, the window controls are replaced by an Ubuntu logo (monochrome >> ala 11.04), followed (towards right) by the active-app name (and >> title?). Note: this Ubuntu logo is not clickable. >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR FIRST HITS THE TOP >> PANEL BEFORE IT HITS THE LEFT EDGE, then the window controls and the >> appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user can interact. >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE LEFT EDGE >> FIRST, the Ubuntu logo on top gracefully grows into a button of its >> own, while (at the same time) the Launcher fades and/or slides into >> view (very nice visual attractions can be achieved here). Once the >> Launcher is shown, the user can click anywhere outside, at which >> instant, the Launcher and the Ubuntu button fade out of view kind of >> in a reverse visual effect. >> >> (If anyone can make a mockup of this, I'd really appreciate it) >> >> I strongly suggest that Canonical and other decision makers consider a >> design of this sorts, and not move the Ubuntu button completely out of >> the very-top-corner. I'm certain a compromise (as above suggestion) >> that is clever ans usable can be achieved between window controls and >> Ubuntu button. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <m...@canonical.com> >> wrote: >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > Eylem Koca wrote on 27/08/11 03:49: >> >> >> >> The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window >> >> control buttons to the top left. >> >> Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the >> >> window controls are better on the top left, so they moved the Ubuntu >> >> button out of that location. >> >>... >> > >> > No, the usability test didn't show anything like that. (How could it >> > have, when the test environment used only one placement?) >> > >> > What it did show was that, except for a bug, everyone managed to close a >> > window. 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