I just corrected an error in my proposal and registered a blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/unity-shell/+spec/top-left-corner
Eylem On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:21 PM, André Oliva <gandreol...@gmail.com> wrote: > But with the current design, since window controls are at the corner, when I > make the launcher always visible, it looks very inconsistent. Window > controls look like they're part of the launcher... At least, when the > launcher is always visible, the Ubuntu button should extend to the top left > corner... > > I also think that there has to be some visual element that reminds somehow > how the launcher can be invoked and how to invoke dash also. (Not sure it's > a good example, but like "Activities" in Gnome 3) > > The solution of a corner button that "grows" for me is the best, because you > have really an element that is visually very distinct (part of the top panel > and part of the launcher)... And it's simple. > > > > 2011/8/30 Eylem Koca <eylemk...@gmail.com> >> >> Ian, >> Do you think my proposal in the previous message could address those >> issues? >> I think it would but I'm no expert... >> >> Eylem >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Because the window controls should have gone in the corner, and the >> > Usability testing did show that people were clicking on the top icon in >> > the >> > launcher to try and open the dash. >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:34, Eylem Koca <eylemk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, sorry, I got it wrong it seems. But then, why oh why did the >> >> Ubuntu button have to leave the top left corner? If it did not look >> >> like a button, then make it like a button, not displace it. The OP >> >> includes a very good mockup for example: >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton >> >> >> >> I really really think that moving the Ubuntu button out of the >> >> very-top-left-corner is a huge mistake. >> >> >> >> If you really have to place the window control buttons to the >> >> very-top-left-corner, then I have a proposal. This just popped into my >> >> mind, and goes like this: >> >> >> >> - Make the Launcher cover the whole left edge, going over the top >> >> panel at the top left corner. The Ubuntu button (whatever the design) >> >> is at the top of the Launcher. >> >> - When the cursor is not directed to the top panel, the Launcher shows >> >> or hides according to normal behavior (dodge, autohide, etc). >> >> - If the Launcher is showing, the window controls on the left of the >> >> top panel are hidden, the active-app name (and title?) is displayed on >> >> the top panel (starting from where the window controls would end) and >> >> the appmenu is hidden. >> >> --- While the Launcher is showing, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE TOP PANEL >> >> BEFORE IT HITS THE LAUNCHER, then the Launcher hides, the window >> >> controls and the appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user >> >> can interact. >> >> --- While the Launcher is showing, the user can activate Dash by >> >> either clicking on the Ubuntu button or by pushing the cursor to top >> >> left corner (second part should be a user configurable option). >> >> - If the Launcher is somehow hidden, and the cursor is NOT on the top >> >> panel, the window controls are replaced by an Ubuntu logo (monochrome >> >> ala 11.04), followed (towards right) by the active-app name (and >> >> title?). Note: this Ubuntu logo is not clickable. >> >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR FIRST HITS THE TOP >> >> PANEL BEFORE IT HITS THE LEFT EDGE, then the window controls and the >> >> appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user can interact. >> >> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE LEFT EDGE >> >> FIRST, the Ubuntu logo on top gracefully grows into a button of its >> >> own, while (at the same time) the Launcher fades and/or slides into >> >> view (very nice visual attractions can be achieved here). Once the >> >> Launcher is shown, the user can click anywhere outside, at which >> >> instant, the Launcher and the Ubuntu button fade out of view kind of >> >> in a reverse visual effect. >> >> >> >> (If anyone can make a mockup of this, I'd really appreciate it) >> >> >> >> I strongly suggest that Canonical and other decision makers consider a >> >> design of this sorts, and not move the Ubuntu button completely out of >> >> the very-top-corner. I'm certain a compromise (as above suggestion) >> >> that is clever ans usable can be achieved between window controls and >> >> Ubuntu button. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas >> >> <m...@canonical.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> > Hash: SHA1 >> >> > >> >> > Eylem Koca wrote on 27/08/11 03:49: >> >> >> >> >> >> The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window >> >> >> control buttons to the top left. >> >> >> Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the >> >> >> window controls are better on the top left, so they moved the Ubuntu >> >> >> button out of that location. >> >> >>... >> >> > >> >> > No, the usability test didn't show anything like that. (How could it >> >> > have, when the test environment used only one placement?) >> >> > >> >> > What it did show was that, except for a bug, everyone managed to >> >> > close a >> >> > window. However, 4 of 11 people clicked the Me menu thinking it might >> >> > be >> >> > the close button. >> >> > >> >> > - -- >> >> > mpt >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> >> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> > >> >> > iEYEARECAAYFAk5c57wACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecqBwACdGwSiKNTl4R4mGFP2XxM/VNSk >> >> > LS0An2j+62m/nhfiU7eQovY2naYb0A3T >> >> > =5qUv >> >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >> > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >> >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >> Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ian Santopietro >> > >> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >> > >> > "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast >> > Ofer middangeard monnum sended" >> > >> > Pa gur yv y porthaur? >> > Public GPG key >> > >> > (RSA): http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
