The fact that you keep bringing up the corner means you aren't getting my point.
It's fine that the corner-ness is helpful to you and others. I get that. I have already explained that that is not an issue for me, nor do I find it all that helpful. So, I feel It would be a waste of my time to continue discussing this. Sorry. On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:16:11 +0200 Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. aug. 2011 07:55, skrev huff: > > > > I also did a test with my eyes closed, just to see how much it > > affected me not being able to see the buttons as all. I was > > able to hit the close button 8 of 10 times when I had my eyes > > closed. I'd say the speed was about the same. > > What about the maximize button? Or the minimize button? Why > > the focus on the close button? That's the easiest one anyway > > (if it's in the corner and the others are next to it). > > The point is that you can get to within 20 pixels of any of > the buttons with your eyes closed and then the buttons > are visible. That is probably about as accurate as people > will get if they move the pointer quickly towards the buttons > in any case, so that means it doesn't harm that they're > not visible until the mouse is there. > > > That's the part that I think you are are missing. I aim at > > things I can see, not locations I have learned. The wait after > > the corner for me would not be waiting for the buttons, but > > waiting for me to identify where the one i want is. Normally I > > do that step while moving the mouse, so it takes no extra time. > > I think you're wrong. I didn't even notice that they had been > hidden immediately. I'm not even entirely sure how I > noticed it, but I immediately liked it. Hence the subject. > It certainly hasn't slowed me down in any way. > > >> Well. If it's such great concern, then there's always other > >> shells or even operating systems. > > I may have to do that, but I will be sad about it. I > > liked Ubuntu a lot up until I tried Unity for awhile. I went > > back to Classic, and am just hoping that the next version of > > Unity works for me. Which is why I signed up for this list in > > the first place. > > > Unity is a fairly small part of Ubuntu though. We have > at least ten different shells that I know of. There's probably > quite a few more. But I would recommend against taking a > strong stance before you've actually tried it. I think it works > very nicely. > >> But I haven't been able to find any real, unbiased, person who > >> has any complaints about it. I haven't found any arguments here > >> either, except for yours; "I don't like it." > > I most certainly am biased by what works for me. Part of my > > job is designing interfaces, and I am quite familiar with what > > causes me to stumble. So if "everyone" else "should" do it a > > different way than I (and some of them) prefer, and Ubuntu > > forces us to do it that other way, then so be it. I will > > switch. > Ubuntu doesn't force anything. Gnome Shell is in the software > center, for instance. But you keep saying that it's wrong, but > you don't really provide any arguments to support that claim. > Perhaps Unity isn't the most suitable shell for the most technical > users, but it certainly seems user friendly to the less > experienced. > >> Yes, but from what you're saying I don't think you've tested > >> it yourself, much less tested it on others. For instance, we've > >> never before had the buttons in the corner. > > I may have missed something in this thread, since the posts > > are so long, but being in the corner is not really helpful to > > me. If I can see them, it hardly matters to me where they are. > > Right. If they aren't in the corner, then you have ti see them. > But since they're in the corner, you don't have to see them, > which makes the interface less confusing because there are > less clutter and useless controls. > > Jo-Erlend Schinstad > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
